So after 3 popularity resets in like two days i officialy quit. My new map Ling Ling Rocket had about 6 hours on page 3 (Starting at like 12AM!) and they reset it. People were enjoying it but hey what does Blizzard care? I personally cannot stand to see this anymore because it really bothers me when i see people having fun with my work and then Blizzard does not given give maps more then a few hours to build the type of following something like Nexus Wars has.
Anyways, if Vjeux or Xara could please PM me i would like to send you guys ALL of my maps to finally upload them to EU since i wont be updating anymore.
US. Consider this my official announcement that i am done
EU. Consider this my official launch of all my maps that you have asked for lol.
Setbacks? This is how it is and how its been since day one lol. The fact that everytime they reset EVERYONE says to knock it the fuck off and they keep doing it every 3-6 hours its out of control and i take it as an insult personally. US servers are fucked so i thought it would be good to just get everything ive made to EU since im done, why not?
Make the best maps you can and give constructive feedback to Blizzard,
that's all you can do for now.
I keep trying to tell everyone, dont assume they are going to fix this shit. Imo i am taking the right approach here in not wasting my god damn time with Blizzard when they clearly dont know what they are doing. They do resets, people say stop... they do another one in a matter of hours.
Want proof they dont give a shit? Look at the Featured maps... weekly eh? The same damn maps have been featured for a month because they dont give a shit. They dont give a shit so niether do i.
I really hope other map makers see the light because seeing your work never get the time of day hurts alot.
Popularity is reset every fortnight on a Wednesday morning. Yes, the system sucks, we get it. They get it. They'll change it.
What are you going to do until they fix the system? Throw the teddy out of the cot every time something doesn't go your way?
If you are mapping for what pathetic amounts of e-fame are associated with it, by all means give up. If you are mapping because you enjoy it, then this topic is a waste of time; perseverance.
Popularity is reset every fortnight on a Wednesday morning. Yes, the
system sucks, we get it. They get it. They'll change it.
What are you going to do until they fix the system? Throw the teddy out
of the cot every time something doesn't go your way?
If you are mapping for what pathetic amounts of e-fame are associated
with it, by all means give up. If you are mapping because you enjoy it,
then this topic is a waste of time; perseverance.
You're on EU, you dont know what the fuck your talking about Eiviyn. We get like 3 pop resets every day or two.
And of course here we go with the flame war start "DONT DO IT IF YOU WANT TO BE E FAMOUS"
You even fucking said in your video for Catalyst you want your map to be a top played map... thats what everyone wants and when your maps dont even get the time of day and you quit bc the system is fucked and getting worse... there is nothing wrong with that and it has nothign to do with fucking E Fame. So sick of that fucking arguement.
Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never had to deal with popularity resets, right?
My map was on page 1 a day after release and it stayed at rank 2 until patch 1.1, where it was broken. After I managed to fix the issue, it created a duplicate map which made the real version very difficult to find, because people were still trying to join the broken one. After a week, the dust settled and it was back to page 1. They reset popularity every fortnight on a Tuesday night, and my map got hit by that and never recovered.
In short: been there, done that.
I don't believe you've had 3 resets per day since release.
What you want your map to be and why you want to make maps are two very different things.
If you want to stop making maps because the release custom map system sucks, then you really ought to re-evaluate why you bother with the editor at all.
Alright, im not gonna try to argue with you over the pop system. But could you please respond to my comments on the other stuff you said? Would love to finally hear a counter arguement when someone questions the whole Dont do it for E fame argument.
What you want your map to be and why you want to make maps are two very
different things.
So by that arguement, say their was no way to share or for anyone but yourself to play your maps in anyway shape or form. Would you still make maps? I dont think so.
So by that arguement, say their was no way to share or for anyone but yourself to play your maps in anyway shape or form. Would you still make maps? I dont think so.
That's not the same thing. Part of the joy of creation is showing people what you've built. I know you're going to say that the popularity system kills some of that joy, and you'd be right, it does kill some of it. You know it will be changed. What can you do until then? Throw in the towel or just keep doing what you enjoy?
I can understand your frustration, and agree on a lot of the points you made.
If mapping is taking too much of your time(which in general fact it does) then yeah you should just quit it. Atleast for now anyway, until Blizzard makes changes or until you feel like making a return again. Dont waste hours/days/weeks of your life hoping against the popularity system/resets. Especially since you have had so much disappointment thus far. Not worth it.
So by that arguement, say their was no way to share or for anyone but
yourself to play your maps in anyway shape or form. Would you still make
maps? I dont think so.
That's not the same thing. Part of the joy of creation is showing people
what you've built. I know you're going to say that the popularity system
kills some of that joy, and you'd be right, it does kill some of it. You
know it will be changed. What can you do until then? Throw in the towel
or just keep doing what you enjoy?
You didnt answer my question. That is the same thing because i am just saying going on your point of view you should make maps for the "love" with no expectations of anyone ever playing them. I'm trying to help you out here because the whole "If you make maps for E-Fame then dont do it at all" arguement is fucking horse shit and needs to stop. You're pretty much saying you know how i feel and why i do things? To anyone who uses that i say Fuck you.
Throwing in the towel unless something changes someday is the right approach. On US we constantly have anti reset threads pop up everytime they reset, and what do they do? Reset again in a few hours. I am sorry but you people can cradle Blizzards icey sack all you want but i am starting to see things the way they are.
I can understand your frustration, and agree on a lot of the points you
made.
If mapping is taking too much of your time(which in general fact it
does) then yeah you should just quit it. Atleast for now anyway, until
Blizzard makes changes or until you feel like making a return again.
Dont waste hours/days/weeks of your life hoping against the popularity
system/resets. Especially since you have had so much disappointment thus
far. Not worth it.
I made wc3 maps for 3 years and never released anything, if you want an answer that badly. The difference between sc2 and wc3 is that I decided well in advance what I wanted to make, and will stick with it to the end. I didn't want to answer this question because this thread isn't about me.
It's about this defeatist attitude to the popularity system. It's still a game after all. If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. Let that be your reason, not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting".
I made wc3 maps for 3 years and never released anything, if you want an
answer that badly. The difference between sc2 and wc3 is that I decided
well in advance what I wanted to make, and will stick with it to the
end. I didn't want to answer this question because this thread isn't
about me.
It's about this defeatist attitude to the popularity system. It's still
a game after all. If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. Let that be your
reason, not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting".
Just like everyone else who uses this arguement you cant defend it. I make maps because i have fun playing them and i enjoy seeing other people enjoy them. Do i want my map to be page 1? No, all i want is to be able to play my maps and for others to enjoy them. Once again, i really hope your reading what im saying because you need to stop using that arguement because its like you're trying to play the part of Dr. Phil.
If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. Let that be your reason, not "my map
isn't popular so I'm quitting".
I believe that's not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting", that's
"popularity system disallows me to create or play good maps so I'm
quitting".
<</quote>>'
You know what, i just want to thank you for posting that. This is exactly what im trying to say but these people who use the "dont make maps if u want them to be popular" arguement need to fucking gtfo.
So after 3 popularity resets in like two days i officialy quit. My new map Ling Ling Rocket had about 6 hours on page 3 (Starting at like 12AM!) and they reset it. People were enjoying it but hey what does Blizzard care? I personally cannot stand to see this anymore because it really bothers me when i see people having fun with my work and then Blizzard does not given give maps more then a few hours to build the type of following something like Nexus Wars has.
Anyways, if Vjeux or Xara could please PM me i would like to send you guys ALL of my maps to finally upload them to EU since i wont be updating anymore.
US. Consider this my official announcement that i am done
EU. Consider this my official launch of all my maps that you have asked for lol.
Is this really how you want to handle setbacks?
Setbacks? This is how it is and how its been since day one lol. The fact that everytime they reset EVERYONE says to knock it the fuck off and they keep doing it every 3-6 hours its out of control and i take it as an insult personally. US servers are fucked so i thought it would be good to just get everything ive made to EU since im done, why not?
@Eiviyn: Go
Make the best maps you can and give constructive feedback to Blizzard, that's all you can do for now.
I keep trying to tell everyone, dont assume they are going to fix this shit. Imo i am taking the right approach here in not wasting my god damn time with Blizzard when they clearly dont know what they are doing. They do resets, people say stop... they do another one in a matter of hours.
Want proof they dont give a shit? Look at the Featured maps... weekly eh? The same damn maps have been featured for a month because they dont give a shit. They dont give a shit so niether do i.
I really hope other map makers see the light because seeing your work never get the time of day hurts alot.
@Bounty_98: Go
Popularity is reset every fortnight on a Wednesday morning. Yes, the system sucks, we get it. They get it. They'll change it.
What are you going to do until they fix the system? Throw the teddy out of the cot every time something doesn't go your way?
If you are mapping for what pathetic amounts of e-fame are associated with it, by all means give up. If you are mapping because you enjoy it, then this topic is a waste of time; perseverance.
You're on EU, you dont know what the fuck your talking about Eiviyn. We get like 3 pop resets every day or two.
And of course here we go with the flame war start "DONT DO IT IF YOU WANT TO BE E FAMOUS"
You even fucking said in your video for Catalyst you want your map to be a top played map... thats what everyone wants and when your maps dont even get the time of day and you quit bc the system is fucked and getting worse... there is nothing wrong with that and it has nothign to do with fucking E Fame. So sick of that fucking arguement.
Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never had to deal with popularity resets, right?
My map was on page 1 a day after release and it stayed at rank 2 until patch 1.1, where it was broken. After I managed to fix the issue, it created a duplicate map which made the real version very difficult to find, because people were still trying to join the broken one. After a week, the dust settled and it was back to page 1. They reset popularity every fortnight on a Tuesday night, and my map got hit by that and never recovered.
In short: been there, done that.
I don't believe you've had 3 resets per day since release.
Edit:
What you want your map to be and why you want to make maps are two very different things.
If you want to stop making maps because the release custom map system sucks, then you really ought to re-evaluate why you bother with the editor at all.
Alright, im not gonna try to argue with you over the pop system. But could you please respond to my comments on the other stuff you said? Would love to finally hear a counter arguement when someone questions the whole Dont do it for E fame argument.
how about.... wait?
So by that arguement, say their was no way to share or for anyone but yourself to play your maps in anyway shape or form. Would you still make maps? I dont think so.
That's not the same thing. Part of the joy of creation is showing people what you've built. I know you're going to say that the popularity system kills some of that joy, and you'd be right, it does kill some of it. You know it will be changed. What can you do until then? Throw in the towel or just keep doing what you enjoy?
@Bounty_98:
I can understand your frustration, and agree on a lot of the points you made.
If mapping is taking too much of your time(which in general fact it does) then yeah you should just quit it. Atleast for now anyway, until Blizzard makes changes or until you feel like making a return again. Dont waste hours/days/weeks of your life hoping against the popularity system/resets. Especially since you have had so much disappointment thus far. Not worth it.
Good luck
You didnt answer my question. That is the same thing because i am just saying going on your point of view you should make maps for the "love" with no expectations of anyone ever playing them. I'm trying to help you out here because the whole "If you make maps for E-Fame then dont do it at all" arguement is fucking horse shit and needs to stop. You're pretty much saying you know how i feel and why i do things? To anyone who uses that i say Fuck you.
Throwing in the towel unless something changes someday is the right approach. On US we constantly have anti reset threads pop up everytime they reset, and what do they do? Reset again in a few hours. I am sorry but you people can cradle Blizzards icey sack all you want but i am starting to see things the way they are.
EXACTLY, thank you lol
@Bounty_98: Go
I made wc3 maps for 3 years and never released anything, if you want an answer that badly. The difference between sc2 and wc3 is that I decided well in advance what I wanted to make, and will stick with it to the end. I didn't want to answer this question because this thread isn't about me.
It's about this defeatist attitude to the popularity system. It's still a game after all. If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. Let that be your reason, not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting".
Just like everyone else who uses this arguement you cant defend it. I make maps because i have fun playing them and i enjoy seeing other people enjoy them. Do i want my map to be page 1? No, all i want is to be able to play my maps and for others to enjoy them. Once again, i really hope your reading what im saying because you need to stop using that arguement because its like you're trying to play the part of Dr. Phil.
@Bounty_98: Go
By the way, they just reset it AGAIN... thats fucking FOUR.
Defend that shit.
I believe that's not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting", that's "popularity system disallows me to create or play good maps so I'm quitting".
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Quote from Eiviyn: Go
If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. Let that be your reason, not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting".
I believe that's not "my map isn't popular so I'm quitting", that's "popularity system disallows me to create or play good maps so I'm quitting". <</quote>>'
You know what, i just want to thank you for posting that. This is exactly what im trying to say but these people who use the "dont make maps if u want them to be popular" arguement need to fucking gtfo.
thanks dude, i couldnt have said it any better.