After the release of the "Human Centipad" South Park episode, and downloading the recent patch for WoW, I started to think. Does anyone actually read these license agreements? Do you think that Blizzard, Apple, Microsoft, etc actually expects you to read them?
I know that I for one have never read an entire License Agreement. I read the first paragraph of one once, but got bored immediately and just accepted it and went and ate pancakes. (Seriously, that happened like an hour ago, and I actually did go eat pancakes)
I watched that episode, and immediately after, went back and read the itunes agreement :D
I check each section for keywords like money, payment, billing, etc.... While I do not read every word, I do make sure to get the gist of the agreement, and see if there's anything weird in there.
Because of people that do not read these, it's a idea that companies should make a "dumbed down version" for average people to be able to read and understand.
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Why would they do that? They would gain nothing (and possibly lose a lot) if people actually read what they put there, and would not have the same legal advantage.
The only people that would read them are people who want to exploit them. Usually nothing sinister is hidden in them although there are a few tidbits that are usually brought to light in gaming articles. I've read one once and it didn't seem to contain anything sinister. Hilarious thing is the lawyers who write them up probably spend a day or two writing them to get paid good money just so no one can read it.
Nobody reads them b/c you have to agree to play the game, no matter what. But I promise you, when WoW bans some accounts for botting or w/e, there are people that will go through those agreements with a fine tooth comb. Thing is, they all that that one line in there that pretty much makes the rest irrelevant.
Usually something to the effect of
"Everything herein is subject to change at the discretion of XYZ corporation."
I usually skim through it for 2-3 seconds or so, checking fast for keywords in different paragraphs to see if my eyes focus on anything weird, then I sigh and wonder why I wasted 3 seconds, and accept.
I recently installed a game, which didn't ask me, if I agree to the ToS, but if I understand them 0_o.
Theoretically, for this specific formulation, could I go to court, if I violate the ToS and they punish me, with the argument, they just asked me, if I understand their terms, which I did, but I did never agree to them? :D
After the release of the "Human Centipad" South Park episode, and downloading the recent patch for WoW, I started to think. Does anyone actually read these license agreements? Do you think that Blizzard, Apple, Microsoft, etc actually expects you to read them?
I know that I for one have never read an entire License Agreement. I read the first paragraph of one once, but got bored immediately and just accepted it and went and ate pancakes. (Seriously, that happened like an hour ago, and I actually did go eat pancakes)
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no you don't read them.
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hmmm i never read it ^^
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I watched that episode, and immediately after, went back and read the itunes agreement :D
I check each section for keywords like money, payment, billing, etc.... While I do not read every word, I do make sure to get the gist of the agreement, and see if there's anything weird in there.
Because of people that do not read these, it's a idea that companies should make a "dumbed down version" for average people to be able to read and understand.
Why would they do that? They would gain nothing (and possibly lose a lot) if people actually read what they put there, and would not have the same legal advantage.
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It's not my suggestion. People have said that they should the standard EULA, in addition to the dumbed down version. =/
That's what he's saying. If you actually know what's in the TOS, it would likely hurt their sales to some extent.
The only people that would read them are people who want to exploit them. Usually nothing sinister is hidden in them although there are a few tidbits that are usually brought to light in gaming articles. I've read one once and it didn't seem to contain anything sinister. Hilarious thing is the lawyers who write them up probably spend a day or two writing them to get paid good money just so no one can read it.
Nobody reads them b/c you have to agree to play the game, no matter what. But I promise you, when WoW bans some accounts for botting or w/e, there are people that will go through those agreements with a fine tooth comb. Thing is, they all that that one line in there that pretty much makes the rest irrelevant.
Usually something to the effect of "Everything herein is subject to change at the discretion of XYZ corporation."
I usually skim through it for 2-3 seconds or so, checking fast for keywords in different paragraphs to see if my eyes focus on anything weird, then I sigh and wonder why I wasted 3 seconds, and accept.
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I just scroll it down and accept even it isn't required :)
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I recently installed a game, which didn't ask me, if I agree to the ToS, but if I understand them 0_o.
Theoretically, for this specific formulation, could I go to court, if I violate the ToS and they punish me, with the argument, they just asked me, if I understand their terms, which I did, but I did never agree to them? :D