SC2Mapster

We are asking Blizzard to feature Debates. If you like the idea, please, suggest it here: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/617808

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We all know that Debates isn't very popular on Battle.net (page 4). So, if you like Debates, please suggest it on the website: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/617808

In this way, Blizzard might feature this map. :)

@ApolloStarcaft: Go

I will watch that :)

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@xSun: Go

He doesn't feel like putting it on EU until some time after Sept. 11. It will eventually be on EU, based on what he's saying. I'm not sure if it's even possible to create a cut-down version of this game. I mean, what's there to remove while the whole remains fun?

As for the map itself, I have not played it yet but I know good social direction when I see it. Debates is in a similar vein as Mafia (a WC3 map I made), since both are social games (I suppose, most of Mafia is "debating" about who should go to the gallows), so I know about how challenging it is to make the game appealing to players. However, when it succeeds, it's [i]extremely[/i] rewarding, more so than other games. I'm sure you know the feeling, RodrigoAlves.

Yes DarkRevenantX, I know what you mean. Debates in page 3 was for me more rewarding than my map Platform Defense in page 1 (during the whole beta). Platform Defense is all about Booms and Bangs, but Debates is about personality. The players are 10x more involved in the game. Some player told me in game yesterday that "Debates is not a game anymore, but it's now [his] reality."

I cannot sacrifice the online ranking just because of the crypt; I have to publish the complete game, but not before 11 sept. Indeed, the map will eventually be on EU.

Thanks.

@Sixen: Go

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Alright, I talked to someone yesterday. As of right now, the point of the contest is to come up with something new. Things that have already been published, posted, etc, etc, technically are not eligible.

They used the word "technically?" It's a big difference, you know.

Hey. Nice thread. :)

Quote from wOlfLisK: Go

Rodrigo! I hereby say that I will post Debates on the EU servers for you! Now lets get it up NAO! >:(

Sorry, there are some reasons I haven't released Debates on the EU servers yet.

1. I would do that if I had my own EU account. It's hard to give the map to someone I don't know very well to update for me with all its crypt or to get an account of someone who might doubt of me if something happens.
2. I might send Debates to the map contest, and before that I can't have anyone with a copy of the map yet. Also, I will try to submit Debates in the European contest, since Debates wasn't published on EU yet.
3. I update Debates every day. I'm always fixing bugs, removing thoughts people don't like, adding thoughts, etc. Debates has the "thought of the week" that has to be updated every week.
4. Debates has 7 admins who I talk every day. I am always on Battle.net to listen problems that happened during games, or playing, or calling 50 people to play every day. I'm stucked at home playing Debates and motivating people to play. That is how I made it to the page 3. I wouldn't be so active on the EU server, and therefore, it would be very hard to make the map popular.
5. Look at CardCraft. It's an excellent game and it's not popular on Battle.net NA. Although sc2mapster members know very well about Debates, most of the Starcraft players never heard about it. There is less than 100 people on EU willing to play Debates. This is not enough to make the map popular. Look at my map Platform Defense. It was one of the first 5 maps in the 1st page during all beta phase 1 and half of phase 2, but today the map is in page 200 with 5 games played per day.
6. I plan to update to EU, but I need Debates with more updates (I'm still updating every day), and more fame. Debates is just not popular enough to survive on Europe :(
7. Most of the players on EU does not speak english, and Debates is all about english. The whole game you have to prove your point in english. That will reduce popularity even more. With no popularity, no one plays.
8. Debates is a long game with 8 players. You cannot play it with less than 5 players, which makes it very very hard to reach the first few pages.
9. The only way to make it popular on NA was having 3 players to boost it during 10 hours and more 500 players who love the game to play every day. There's even a debates school in which most of the students were playing the whole day. Plus all the videos posted on sc2mapster! That's how Debates got to the 3rd page. Sadly, Debates on EU will be exactly like CardCraft on NA.

I am trying to find a solution to update Debates on EU one day. I just hope Blizzard realizes it; if at least they could unlock regions...

- Maps already published on Battle.net (but not very popular) are allowed to join the contest? These maps have to be removed from Battle.net?

- Can Blizzard use our maps as their own if we don't win the contest?

- If I just change the map name and loading screen, is it considered a new map?

- Can I submit more than one map?

@SaucySC: Go

They will only respond us if they look at the maps submitted and say "Holy shit, there's only crappy maps here! We need to answer sc2mapster, so they can send the good ones. I can't broadcast these maps on Blizzcon!"

New Starcraft Debates video. This time, I'm talking about TROLLS.

They will give to you 5k and make 5,000k with your map, and you will be happy because 5k is a lot of money.

@GeEom: Go

Nice letter. I want to know Blizzard's answer. However, I think they will answer us only if no good maps were submitted. I am not sending my maps until they explain this, and I recommend you to do the same.

Hey, I'm loving this idea :)

Can you make a commentary on my map Debates? http://www.youtube.com/scDebates

The map is on page 3-4 on Battle.net (NA). I will really appreciate if you do that. Thanks.

Hey guyz, I found more news in this thread:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374771409

It's a huge thread about this map contest. Check it out.

The information I posted is in the check box (when you submit a map).

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@Galois1: Go Sponsor Use of Entries. You hereby agree that in consideration of your being allowed the chance to enter the Contest, you hereby grant Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide license and right to utilize the entry materials that you submit to Sponsor in connection with the Contest (collectively, "Entry Materials"). The Entry Materials will not be returned to any entrant. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you acknowledge that Sponsor shall have the right to use, modify, reproduce, publish, perform, display on all forms of media, distribute, make derivative works of and otherwise commercially and noncommercially exploit the Entry Materials in perpetuity and throughout the universe, in any manner or medium now existing or hereafter developed, without separate compensation to you or any other person or entity. You agree to take, at Sponsor's expense, any further action (including, without limitation, execution of affidavits and other documents) reasonably requested by Sponsor to effect, perfect or confirm Sponsor's rights as set forth above in this paragraph 7.

Other words, "I can copy your map, say that was my idea, publish it in my name, give you nothing for that, and you cannot do anything because you allowed me to"

If I change slightly details in my map, is it considered another map?