I'm headed to make my first map that i intend to publish. I've made maps in the past, however small errors and lack of knowledge stopped me from creating a map. Now i have finally decided on making one now that i have a good understanding of the editor. I'm looking for feedback on the map idea. Constructive criticism, and suggestions, only please!
Map idea: A Melee map with a brand new melee class that will be named later. (if you have a name suggestion, just pop it in a comment.)
New class: The new class will be composed of new units, upgrades, buildings, ext.
-Units: Units will be created by carefully combining standard unit models. Some units will be made from units that are not seen in melee.
-Upgrades: Most of all upgrades will be made to (along with the boost) change the look of units.
-Buildings: Buildings will be made from doodads and such. Some will also be made from/with buildings already created.
-Abilities: All abilities will be brand new, and will have quality effects.
-Balance: All factors of the new class will be put through rigorous testing to avoid making them to strong or to weak, and to test for bugs.
Additional Ideas/info: I'm trying to create a class that can pull some of the characteristics of Terran, Zerg, and Protoss, while also introducing new characteristics, and containing a good level of originality.
So... What do you think? Good? Bad? Give me your opinion, and if you want to, give me some suggestions for the map. I'm fine with harsh criticism, just please keep it clean, and constructive.
Well, you should do something less huge than this. Your idea is good, but with some problems:
There are 3 very different races. It has hard to create a 4th one.
Building and Units - well, having so many doodads and different types of units, it still will be very hard to create something new by mixing them.
Making those models together at required site-ops work can also be a pain-in-the-ass.
Balance... Well, it will take you a lot of time. And, I think you won't balance it to the finest.
Not to make you feel down in the dumps, but it will be hard for you to make it work. So, I'd suggest to try something more simple... Create a base for your races, with which you can work with. At least 1 building, unit with a working ability. Then decide, will you create a whole new race.
Do a race called the infested then. You can use both Terran and Protoss units then, just make them look infested. Should not be that hard to create the looks.
I think you are underestimating Blizzards balance work, balancing a new race to not be OP, UP against any of the three other races is a massive job! I guess, with some luck and skills you can come pretty close to what seems balanced the first few times playing with the race.
Good luck, and good idea
I understand it is going to be hard, but looking at the maps that have hit the front page (Starjewel, Left 2 Die, ext) i know i will have to work my butt off to get it all done.
My creativity knows no bounds, so making the model for a new unit or building will be a peace of cake :D (i have attached a picture of a Super Battle Cruiser unit i created. both of the turrets on the front shoot, as well as the giant center cannon.)
its true that site-ops is a pain, but it was the first thing i learned, so i have had quite a while to experience its full potential.
Balance will obviously be one of the most painstaking processes, but it comes with the mission, and i am willing to do it. even if something is annoying and extremely hard to do, it's not like i have a deadline to turn it in to someone, i can take my sweet precious time making the map. Not saying ill slack off and do like 10min/day, but i wont go overdrive and go 10hours/day.
Btw... how do you like the look of the unit in the picture i posted? (base is a battle cruiser, the rest is a lazer tank, 2 auto-turrets, A.R.E.S. unit, and Battle Cruiser yamato model i found while searching around.)
Maybe just me, but I have a feeling that the nose is stretched a little. Overall, very good. I like it :D
Well, if you are sure that you can make it, then do it. Having the will to succeed is one of the main factors for completion. Good luck! :)
heh fine... ill have a video up in a moment!
Edit: something is going wrong with my video composer.... gonna have to get a new one soon..... cya laterz nubbies!
I'm headed to make my first map that i intend to publish. I've made maps in the past, however small errors and lack of knowledge stopped me from creating a map. Now i have finally decided on making one now that i have a good understanding of the editor. I'm looking for feedback on the map idea. Constructive criticism, and suggestions, only please!
Map idea: A Melee map with a brand new melee class that will be named later. (if you have a name suggestion, just pop it in a comment.)
New class: The new class will be composed of new units, upgrades, buildings, ext.
-Units: Units will be created by carefully combining standard unit models. Some units will be made from units that are not seen in melee.
-Upgrades: Most of all upgrades will be made to (along with the boost) change the look of units.
-Buildings: Buildings will be made from doodads and such. Some will also be made from/with buildings already created.
-Abilities: All abilities will be brand new, and will have quality effects.
-Balance: All factors of the new class will be put through rigorous testing to avoid making them to strong or to weak, and to test for bugs.
Additional Ideas/info: I'm trying to create a class that can pull some of the characteristics of Terran, Zerg, and Protoss, while also introducing new characteristics, and containing a good level of originality.
So... What do you think? Good? Bad? Give me your opinion, and if you want to, give me some suggestions for the map. I'm fine with harsh criticism, just please keep it clean, and constructive.
Well, you should do something less huge than this. Your idea is good, but with some problems:
Not to make you feel down in the dumps, but it will be hard for you to make it work. So, I'd suggest to try something more simple... Create a base for your races, with which you can work with. At least 1 building, unit with a working ability. Then decide, will you create a whole new race.
@o3210: Go
Thanks for the reply!
I understand it is going to be hard, but looking at the maps that have hit the front page (Starjewel, Left 2 Die, ext) i know i will have to work my butt off to get it all done.
My creativity knows no bounds, so making the model for a new unit or building will be a peace of cake :D (i have attached a picture of a Super Battle Cruiser unit i created. both of the turrets on the front shoot, as well as the giant center cannon.)
its true that site-ops is a pain, but it was the first thing i learned, so i have had quite a while to experience its full potential.
Balance will obviously be one of the most painstaking processes, but it comes with the mission, and i am willing to do it. even if something is annoying and extremely hard to do, it's not like i have a deadline to turn it in to someone, i can take my sweet precious time making the map. Not saying ill slack off and do like 10min/day, but i wont go overdrive and go 10hours/day.
Btw... how do you like the look of the unit in the picture i posted? (base is a battle cruiser, the rest is a lazer tank, 2 auto-turrets, A.R.E.S. unit, and Battle Cruiser yamato model i found while searching around.)
Do the turrets are well maked? If yes..well i wanna see a video of it working! XD
Maybe just me, but I have a feeling that the nose is stretched a little. Overall, very good. I like it :D
Well, if you are sure that you can make it, then do it. Having the will to succeed is one of the main factors for completion. Good luck! :)
@Tekaichi: Go
heh fine... ill have a video up in a moment! Edit: something is going wrong with my video composer.... gonna have to get a new one soon..... cya laterz nubbies!
Good luck!
Don't forget about the 10mb map size limit.