I see the best way to comment on the discussion by some Feynman quotes:
“If you thought that science was certain - well, that is just an error on your part.”
“We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.”
“I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong.”
"We cannot define anything precisely! If we attempt to, we get into that paralysis of thought that comes to philosophers, who sit opposite each other, one saying to the other, 'You don't know what you are talking about!' The second one says 'What do you mean by know? What do you mean by talking? What do you mean by you?', and so on."
And one from someone that I dont remember::
"Science is about predicting things more and more precisely."
I thought it was clear with the original post that religious nutters were not welcomed in this thread.
It is very nice to see that one of our resident mods can not help but troll in this thread with religious intollerance. And @Hookah, I was temp-banned because A) I called out a certain Mod (that has posted in this thread) and said there had been a walk-out in relations to his project, of which there has been and he banned me and censored the post relating to the project and tried to blame it on me making OP aware of not spamming his own threads, even when I posted evidence for my actions and it was ignored, and B) Because I decided not to go over his head and get the ban overturned straight away, instead I was too busy planning the release of my own project and a few days without Mapster isn't gonna kill me. It is one of the rare times that I have not had something overturned and instead rode it out, you should feel honoured to have witnessed it :)
BTW, Are we going to censor the above paragraph as well mate? Feel free, all it does is increase my reputation everytime a certain person chucks a tantrum. (from 8-20 in 3 days baby!).
But yes, I agree with Stephen Hawking in that time could not exist before the big bang, nor inside a black hole. But time is merely a measurement, and I think that things can exist outside of time - much like time being a flowing river and you standing on the banks and watching it go by (maybe I have watched one too many episodes of Doctor Who).
If you think of it this way, that the river is the universe, the flowing aspect is time, and it starts at a dam. In the dam, there is no time because nothing is flowing, but it still takes someone to flip the switch to release the dam to create the river, that person would have created the river, henceforth he would be considered god, whether or not he looked after the river is another story. You could throw a rock into the river from the shoreline and it would have just 'suddenly appeared' in the universe, as according to the river nothing can exist outside it. It is just one interesting way of thinking about it.
Quantum Mechanics is all kinds of fun and I find it extremely interesting. I should really study it more, but alas, no time. (Pun Intended).
I thought it was clear with the original post that religious nutters were not welcomed in this thread.
It is very nice to see that one of our resident mods can not help but troll in this thread with religious intollerance. And @Hookah, I was temp-banned because A) I called out a certain Mod (that has posted in this thread) and said there had been a walk-out in relations to his project, of which there has been and he banned me and censored the post relating to the project and tried to blame it on me making OP aware of not spamming his own threads, even when I posted evidence for my actions and it was ignored, and B) Because I decided not to go over his head and get the ban overturned straight away, instead I was too busy planning the release of my own project and a few days without Mapster isn't gonna kill me. It is one of the rare times that I have not had something overturned and instead rode it out, you should feel honoured to have witnessed it :)
Don't get it twisted. We know what you typed to EW and while he was the one that banned you the entire mod team stood behind the decision, including Sixen. I like you overall but you went out of line with that post, even ignoring the bit directed at EW. It's as simple as that. If you want to stay on that horse, tread carefully. Note; this isn't a threat or warning but friendly advice.
If you have genuine troubles with how a certain mod acts, you PM Sixen. If the mod is genuinely in the wrong, he'll set it straight.
I hope that can be the end of it, at least for this thread.
@SolidSC: Go 1.7 billion years and those isotopes are still there, surely the aliens planned forward.... pff. (you know there are gases trapped all over the world in lands...)
@Hookah604: Go Xenon is a noble gas and all noble gasses have very weak interatomic force, very low chemical reactivity, and very low melting and boiling points. Just being a gas Xenon has an unexpectedly low abundance in the atmosphere. Scientist study the isotope ratios of xenon to give age to the early history of everything in the Solar System. Most of the helium in the universe that was formed during Big Bang can do that too. The ancient nuclear reactors way of capturing the Xenon gas was with aluminum phosphate rock. In order for aluminum phosphate to be made naturally you need rain.
I see the best way to comment on the discussion by some Feynman quotes:
“If you thought that science was certain - well, that is just an error on your part.”
“We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.”
“I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong.”
"We cannot define anything precisely! If we attempt to, we get into that paralysis of thought that comes to philosophers, who sit opposite each other, one saying to the other, 'You don't know what you are talking about!' The second one says 'What do you mean by know? What do you mean by talking? What do you mean by you?', and so on."
And one from someone that I dont remember::
"Science is about predicting things more and more precisely."
I thought it was clear with the original post that religious nutters were not welcomed in this thread.
It is very nice to see that one of our resident mods can not help but troll in this thread with religious intollerance. And @Hookah, I was temp-banned because A) I called out a certain Mod (that has posted in this thread) and said there had been a walk-out in relations to his project, of which there has been and he banned me and censored the post relating to the project and tried to blame it on me making OP aware of not spamming his own threads, even when I posted evidence for my actions and it was ignored, and B) Because I decided not to go over his head and get the ban overturned straight away, instead I was too busy planning the release of my own project and a few days without Mapster isn't gonna kill me. It is one of the rare times that I have not had something overturned and instead rode it out, you should feel honoured to have witnessed it :)
BTW, Are we going to censor the above paragraph as well mate? Feel free, all it does is increase my reputation everytime a certain person chucks a tantrum. (from 8-20 in 3 days baby!).
But yes, I agree with Stephen Hawking in that time could not exist before the big bang, nor inside a black hole. But time is merely a measurement, and I think that things can exist outside of time - much like time being a flowing river and you standing on the banks and watching it go by (maybe I have watched one too many episodes of Doctor Who).
If you think of it this way, that the river is the universe, the flowing aspect is time, and it starts at a dam. In the dam, there is no time because nothing is flowing, but it still takes someone to flip the switch to release the dam to create the river, that person would have created the river, henceforth he would be considered god, whether or not he looked after the river is another story. You could throw a rock into the river from the shoreline and it would have just 'suddenly appeared' in the universe, as according to the river nothing can exist outside it. It is just one interesting way of thinking about it.
Quantum Mechanics is all kinds of fun and I find it extremely interesting. I should really study it more, but alas, no time. (Pun Intended).
Don't get it twisted. We know what you typed to EW and while he was the one that banned you the entire mod team stood behind the decision, including Sixen. I like you overall but you went out of line with that post, even ignoring the bit directed at EW. It's as simple as that. If you want to stay on that horse, tread carefully. Note; this isn't a threat or warning but friendly advice.
If you have genuine troubles with how a certain mod acts, you PM Sixen. If the mod is genuinely in the wrong, he'll set it straight.
I hope that can be the end of it, at least for this thread.
He asked the question, I answered it from my point of view.
I have nothing left to say in the matter, nor do I think there is anything left to be said.
@Hookah604: Go Xenon is a noble gas and all noble gasses have very weak interatomic force, very low chemical reactivity, and very low melting and boiling points. Just being a gas Xenon has an unexpectedly low abundance in the atmosphere. Scientist study the isotope ratios of xenon to give age to the early history of everything in the Solar System. Most of the helium in the universe that was formed during Big Bang can do that too. The ancient nuclear reactors way of capturing the Xenon gas was with aluminum phosphate rock. In order for aluminum phosphate to be made naturally you need rain.
Video seems down :(
Can you post another link? Don't know what to google for.
@EW, don't mix up logic and believes. God may be a lot but not logic.
@SolidSC: Go Pff, Xenon is pretty abundant in the ground near ore and gas deposits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_phosphate#Occurrence
From where you get all these fantasy rich stuffs?
@Hookah604: Go Earth has a lower proportion of the element xenon than any other rocky planet even a lower proportion than the solar system as a whole. http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/xenon-missing.html
youtube google wikipedia
I am pretty sure they are thinking about the atmosphere levels there...
Anyway how does that relate to that aliens built nuclear reactor on earth?
Yeah you can find many fantasies with google, like: http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/ :D
Now I'm curious to see the post that caused Dogmai's ban.
Can someone link it to me?
Was something like "I don't like you, you are mean!" "Yeah, I don't like you either!" "Go away!" "No, you go away!" BAN?
Drop it or take it to PM.
@RodrigoAlves: Go
i gots a screen cap if you want me to pm it. trolol.
Send it to me :D
@EternalWraith: Go
It's fairly obvious that god created everything
What because a book says so? What created god in that case?
Sorry, It had to be said :F
And video is down so I have no idea what you're talking about.