Im attempting to start writing mobile apps on android.....
Im looking for people who may be able to help me get started.
So far Ive gotten this far....
install java JDK
install Android SDK
command line tools to create new project .... kind of a lot of parameters one of them effects the Android platform you currently are gonna develop with such as platform 2.2 or 3.0 phones and "Nook E-books" currently are really only updated to 2.2 so if I write something in 3.0 it may not run correctly on my phone.
Found a tool I think handles a lot of different back ground stuff. Install separately ... I believe it may be a fairly
common Java development tool.
Some information regarding how the files are compiled into ".apk" files
Take extra time looking at the "signing" that is involved when compiling
Video Detailing how to move your .apk file you created to your actual device
Apparently AT&T has locked my phone so that I must download apps from the market... this requires me to root my phone I believe.... I really dont want to root my phone so Im attempting to upload my program to the app market.
Attempting to upload to market....
Create Android Market account $25 bucks linked to a gmail account
Apparently Eclipse Enviroment allows you to Export the apk signed and it will help you generate your certificate if you need one...
This worked. I was able to host my app on the Android Market and down load it to my phone. Took awhile for the app to be available through the market place on my phone maybe like an hour?
umm ... windows windows mobile is the same thing as windows phone 7....
Not Evan Close!!!! ive had 6 WM phones from the first MW to window 6.5 , Window phone 7 is a completely re written OS .( i work in cell phones ) and trust me when i say they are NOT the same thing LOL . wp7 is MUCH more powerful allows for Xbox access and cross platform and much, much more then WM series . but i do agree that WM allowed for BETTER tweaks AND keep in mind WP7 has only been out for about 6months now ,and they just released a new Update that allows for MUCH better Access to core programs and it has a MUCH better SDK then Android ( according to IOS and Android DEV )
and also they are coming out with a CROSSD PLATFORM app that allows you to bring your android apps to wp7 or IOS. or the other way around.
and like you mentioned your self!! android is a Saturated OS , meaning that if you make an app it only works for one Version . and MOST of the android Phones are on Different OS or simply not upgradeable ( you can blame that on OPEN SOURCE and carriers , witch sucks!!! reason i never want android lol )
But hey im not gona Stop you from making Apps , if you come out with a good one let me know it might help me sell ANDROID phones more :P and maybe put a couple $$ in your pocket ;)
Hmm good finds soulcarrver I may have to get into this eventually. Not sure about windows phone though... for now.
I've kind of refrained from android because I don't have a phone with it and the problem that selfcreation mentioned with shitty carriers. Although for some reason computer people seem to like android over iphone (and screw blackberry lol, that company is in trouble).
i think most Computer people like Android because it allows for Custom ROM`s and Obviously open source ( witch you can do with most other phones any ways )
but seriously open source is over rated and people think its a great thing cause its OPEN . but tell me one thing this OPEN source allows you to do that other phone have not already done or COULD do . LOL . my opinion any ways. Use your camera flash as a flashlight? LMAO!! j/k
PS. BB does suck :P and i lost ALL hope in IOS ... both of them have been using the SAME freaking thing from the FRIST version they came out with 10 years ago ... BORING!! lol like apple came out with the IPAD 2 . you know the differents from Ipad 1? duel core ... front facing camera..... hmmm that’s it? let sell it to suckers all over the world for 800$ . its like if blizzard would of taken SC1 added 2 units and called it SC2! no?? lol .
PS. BB does suck :P and i lost ALL hope in IOS ... both of them have been using the SAME freaking thing from the FRIST version they came out with 10 years ago ... BORING!! lol like apple came out with the IPAD 2 . you know the differents from Ipad 1? duel core ... front facing camera..... hmmm that’s it? let sell it to suckers all over the world for 800$ . its like if blizzard would of taken SC1 added 2 units and called it SC2! no?? lol .
At one point I was fairly excited to get a newer windows phone and start developing on it.... but IMO its a safer bet just to work with android. Mainly because in the long run your gonna see coffee makers using android OS.
And by golly I want my god damn apps to be able to run on coffee makers and washing machines.
No offense but if you work in cell phones ... I really wouldnt want to buy from you...
if you knew anything about windows youd know nothing they make is completely re-written ... its all reused code for the most part.... the UI's may be different but the vast majority of thier operating systems will use components from years and years and years ago
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wp7 is MUCH more powerful allows for Xbox access and cross platform and much
I could do all that on my wm 6 phone.... honestly I could do anything I wanted to on that thing
its easy to say they use the same codes . its like saying windows 3.1 is the same as windows 7 . its not!. not evan the same format or same built . and it is a COMPLETLY diffrent OS . hence why you cant upgrade your 6.5 to 7 unless you put a cocked ROM on it .
and for the record its not the same , they havent implemented WIN32 , and it doesnt supoport native C devolopement any more.( witch kidna sucks but w/e )
and its impossible you had acces to Xbox live on wm 6.5 ive had all fo them . i can send msg , voice chat , play games , get acheivements from my phones with friend on their xbox(wp7) . you cant do that with wm 6.5 .
im not saying wp7 is the best phone. but it is up their at the TOP with iphone , android ( in terms of potential/qualaty )
Im attempting to start writing mobile apps on android.....
Im looking for people who may be able to help me get started.
So far Ive gotten this far....
It's Java. Very easy to get right into.
... and... the UI is in XML, so it's pretty easy stuff!
Well Im not a big fan of java either....
trying to figure out where the tool is to write code....... for windows....... The documentation for getting started is kinda lousy.
Also not sure about how to run my blank project in the android emulator.
When I run the adroid emulator All I get is a blank black screen that says "android" I dont see that standard phone OS.... So yeah
No idea where I should look next...
why dont you make apps for a better phone like a WP7 :P
its still new and lacking DEV , but is more powerfull then android and iphone ,
@Selfcreation: Go
I was looking at win mobile.... but they removed the OS interface.....
I was a big fan of win mobile 6 because it has the standard windows OS.... but .. eh
Android sounds a lot more promising in the long run to be honest.
also would like to know sounds like interesting hobby. Anyone know of dev tools keep em coming :)
Im not talking about WM , im talking about WP7!! ... MUCH better then WM its a complet new OS.
http://www.wpcentral.com/
Here is a link to the ANDROID getting started btw: http://www.talkandroid.com/google-android-application-guide/
@Selfcreation: Go
umm ... windows windows mobile is the same thing as windows phone 7....
its not better its worse then old windows mobile 6 because they restrict you from making os changes as easily.....
anyways android is fairly open source which allows me greater access to interface with hardware file system.... and so forth.....
I generally I write small programs that can help me do certain things I cant find a program that can.
Not Evan Close!!!! ive had 6 WM phones from the first MW to window 6.5 , Window phone 7 is a completely re written OS .( i work in cell phones ) and trust me when i say they are NOT the same thing LOL . wp7 is MUCH more powerful allows for Xbox access and cross platform and much, much more then WM series . but i do agree that WM allowed for BETTER tweaks AND keep in mind WP7 has only been out for about 6months now ,and they just released a new Update that allows for MUCH better Access to core programs and it has a MUCH better SDK then Android ( according to IOS and Android DEV )
and also they are coming out with a CROSSD PLATFORM app that allows you to bring your android apps to wp7 or IOS. or the other way around.
and like you mentioned your self!! android is a Saturated OS , meaning that if you make an app it only works for one Version . and MOST of the android Phones are on Different OS or simply not upgradeable ( you can blame that on OPEN SOURCE and carriers , witch sucks!!! reason i never want android lol )
But hey im not gona Stop you from making Apps , if you come out with a good one let me know it might help me sell ANDROID phones more :P and maybe put a couple $$ in your pocket ;)
Hmm good finds soulcarrver I may have to get into this eventually. Not sure about windows phone though... for now.
I've kind of refrained from android because I don't have a phone with it and the problem that selfcreation mentioned with shitty carriers. Although for some reason computer people seem to like android over iphone (and screw blackberry lol, that company is in trouble).
@OneTwoSC: Go
i think most Computer people like Android because it allows for Custom ROM`s and Obviously open source ( witch you can do with most other phones any ways )
but seriously open source is over rated and people think its a great thing cause its OPEN . but tell me one thing this OPEN source allows you to do that other phone have not already done or COULD do . LOL . my opinion any ways. Use your camera flash as a flashlight? LMAO!! j/k
PS. BB does suck :P and i lost ALL hope in IOS ... both of them have been using the SAME freaking thing from the FRIST version they came out with 10 years ago ... BORING!! lol like apple came out with the IPAD 2 . you know the differents from Ipad 1? duel core ... front facing camera..... hmmm that’s it? let sell it to suckers all over the world for 800$ . its like if blizzard would of taken SC1 added 2 units and called it SC2! no?? lol .
I love ranting about this stuff :P
EDIT:
Crost Platform: ( to make apps for all phones ) : http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-announces-cross-platform-azure-toolkit
SDK talks: ( from know DEv arround the world ) : http://www.wpcentral.com/another-iphone-dev-praises-windows-phone-sdk
MICROSOFT HOSTING A HACK FEST?? ;) : http://www.wpcentral.com/canadian-wp7-hackfest-ajax-may-14th
@Selfcreation: Go
Im not an open source fan either.... but it makes it much simpler to steal code and morph it to my own purposes......
It also allows easy interfacing to googles existing products....
Regarding carriers.... you can get an android phone on any carrier...... I have AT&T since ive had AT&T for years
Android is actually pretty nice Ive been using the phone since friday.
Even got a SNES emulator running on it been playing some Chrono Trigger.... pretty bad ass
..and windows phone is the best?
@grenegg: Go
At one point I was fairly excited to get a newer windows phone and start developing on it.... but IMO its a safer bet just to work with android. Mainly because in the long run your gonna see coffee makers using android OS.
And by golly I want my god damn apps to be able to run on coffee makers and washing machines.
@Selfcreation: Go
No offense but if you work in cell phones ... I really wouldnt want to buy from you...
if you knew anything about windows youd know nothing they make is completely re-written ... its all reused code for the most part.... the UI's may be different but the vast majority of thier operating systems will use components from years and years and years ago
quote - wp7 is MUCH more powerful allows for Xbox access and cross platform and much
I could do all that on my wm 6 phone.... honestly I could do anything I wanted to on that thing
@SouLCarveRR: Go
its easy to say they use the same codes . its like saying windows 3.1 is the same as windows 7 . its not!. not evan the same format or same built . and it is a COMPLETLY diffrent OS . hence why you cant upgrade your 6.5 to 7 unless you put a cocked ROM on it .
and for the record its not the same , they havent implemented WIN32 , and it doesnt supoport native C devolopement any more.( witch kidna sucks but w/e )
and its impossible you had acces to Xbox live on wm 6.5 ive had all fo them . i can send msg , voice chat , play games , get acheivements from my phones with friend on their xbox(wp7) . you cant do that with wm 6.5 .
im not saying wp7 is the best phone. but it is up their at the TOP with iphone , android ( in terms of potential/qualaty )
xbox live has no interest for me so.... and you were able to access anything that you could from the web for your xblox live account..
eh thats far beyond the point of this topic
please refrain from posting if you have nothing relevant to the development of applications on the android OS
thats not the same thing.
and here you go.... all i got .
- http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
- http://forum.mobilism.org/ ( lots of programmers here good to know web site. )
- http://www.androidcentral.com/ ( also good to know , best android site )
- http://hackaday.com/2010/07/12/android-development-101-%E2%80%93-a-tutorial-series/
- http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-android-devel/
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/ ( the gurus of programming for WM AND ANDROID!!! sorta like sc2mapster for cell phones :P )
- http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/05/mobile-developer-economics-2010/