Good... Segregation has its benefits too... the main thing is, I dont want those 3rd world countries on the same servers by DEFAULT, if they wanna play on american servers thats fine, but at the same time they shouldn't be on those servers by default, this would drastically reduce the amount of lag.
Region locks... no, But segregating a little bit is a good thing.
The thing about those 3rd world countries is when people dont have the internet to play the game... if you dont have a fast enough machine or connection you cant play something, but sadly consoles dont test your connection to play and they allow anyone to host( Consoles use the actual console as a server to reduce cost). So that means some Mexican or southern american with 256k is sitting there hosting 16-32 people at once... and it ruins every game near about it for everyone else....
then theres the language barrier which fucked up games too.(though in game even google translate quality would be nice for text atleast)
I mean mexicans (no offense) are the exact reason I no longer play league of Legends, because almost every game I go in there a hispanic teammate or 2 and I cant understand them and all team strategy is gone, and then theres the huge lag...
I know they want to play. but if you dont have the hardware to do so i shouldnt have to have an unplayable online game. Like gears of war 3, when it came out no hispanics or anything of the sort, The game was fine 100% lag free, then when mexicans(for the most part) migrated to it, it quickly became a lagfest, of nothing but spanish over the mic, you take 1 step you lag 10....
(i say Hispanics because thats all it is on NA servers I am sure in EU its others)
It sounds like I am just being prejudice because they are a different race. but really I am not, its ruining gameplay across the board.
I hope they do a connection test to play online next console if you dont have 3 MB download(not that high kinda shitty actually) you cant play online at all...
Because I really dont mind playing with mexicans i dont, but I want some services to be put into place to ensure the game is not being inhibited by it. Such as Translation of text written by players, Auto mute other countries option, and a connection requirement test of 3MB, i have had 3mb and I can tell you, it is the absolute minimum you should have to play a game, 3mb is very basic internet.
Racist? Not really I am not being racist.... I am being honest, on NA servers, nearly any game with anyone from mexico(not USA Mexican citizens) lags the hell out of the servers, Its true, I am sorry EU doesn't have these problems, but over here you cant play half of the games library because of it. Today i tried logging into halo 4... and just 1 week ago it was fine, now all i hear is Spanish and i lag like hell...
I wasn't being racist, being racist infers that i hate playing with them BECAUSE they are Mexican, that's not the case, i hate playing with people who live in mexico, cuba, etc(mainly mexico, also a few others though) because they lag the hell outta the game to where its unplayable and its because they have shit internet, you cant play a game where your always seeing an after image of someone else.
I just want it so the game isn't fucked because someone thinks they can play need for speed on 56k-256k internet really not even 1 or 2 Mb Download is enough, but 2 mb is okay, but not really, 3 mb is deff the minimum to play any of these games.
really its not racist, perhaps a bit profiling, but 95% of the lag in all of those games is because of shitty internet where other countries dont have the proper hardware to play online.
also for the record i define all Hispanic people as speaking Spanish :P that includes all southern Americans. I understand its incorrect but its just easier.
i know your in EU, so you dont have these problems, but we are region locked in NA, and its all there is in any game I get into these days. i can go on Xbox, PS3 or PC, and its the same everywhere. Hell i just traded in my Gears of War 3 along with a few other games i love to play online, because the online is now unplayable... i got a single player game (epic Micky 2)
i mean its frustrating to pay for a game, then to either punch in or pay for an online pass only to have it unplayable.
The good news is i am hearing from several of my mexican friends(in NC the mexican population is 30%), that in mexico they are starting to upgrade their shit... but right now 1 mb is considered high in most places.
Eh i am not going to get into an argument with you about how Mexicans are not a race at all, but an ethnic group there's no purpose in it, you just wish to nit-pick to call out, no one was being racist... so whatever it doesn't matter, lets try to keep this thread on topic... i had written about 2 page response then looked back and thought about it...
okay so another thing i would like to have for the next gen console. is Removable batteries, that charges through a standard USB cable, like how the PS3 controller charges just... removable... though I am liking my current Xbox 360 controller with 3rd party battery and charging dock.
also i would like the controllers to be well thought about the xbox controller was superior this generation for 2 reasons, 1 Weight, a controller should be a certain weight so not to feel cheap, the ps3 controller was super light (only as heavy as a small Iphone), but the xbox controller felt perfect with its batteries/ rechargeable battery, the xbox controller just felt like it would last longer.
the second reason is joystick location, i didn't think it would first looking at the xbox controller, but the joystick on the left side feels 100x better being above the control pad, It makes all the difference, also it being slightly indented helped too.
Something i would like to see gone - Moving the Xbox fucks up the disk, this was done on purpose. its on all their disk drive manufacturers drives, and other dual layers DvD drives dont do this(such as the one in my laptop, or older desktop) that was done on purpose it was a scam. the PS3 blu ray drives already doesn't do this.
Not that I care about or believe anything someone like you (yes, dat be an insult) would say but...
I learned Spanish in school and when I speak it to irritate people online like in LoL there is often someone else that was just speaking English that can speak Spanish as well. Just saying.
But theres my problem with it, if its text, why cant there be even a poor translation built in, hell id settle for google translate, atleast then they can say top, bottom or middle.
it can be frustrating, now that issue I am sure is on the EU servers too though. that language barrier.
and someone like me? meh, Good to know there are other people who speak their whole minds without allowing political correctness bullshit to block them. glad there are others with some testicles.
You literally didn't read a word of the article I linked, did you? You've wandered out of the territory of stereotype #7 straight into that of stereotype #6 now. This has jack all to do with political correctness. If you'd even glanced at the article, you would've seen it says that the statement "Not to be racist but..." is ALWAYS either followed by a racist statement or by one pointing out a difference so neutral it's not worth pointing out. In your case it's the latter. Wtf is the point of talking about 'Mexicans'? Do they ALL speak Spanish? And does that make them all Mexicans? And is their bad connection/gear why they lag? Heck, you need to realize you are one in I don't know how many thousand LoL players - even if EVERY game you play has someone saying "que? quesadilla!" and has lag you still don't know crap about who they are, if they even are 'mexican' and why they are lagging.
Do you even know what the average gaming PC in Mexico is made of? No, you don't, because you know jack squat about Mexico. Hence the reason why it's completely pointless to even name them in regards to your problems. You can replace the word 'Mexican' with 'Frozen Yoghurt Bear' in your posts and it would still make the same amount of sense. The racist part (alright, 'discrimination part', if you want to get so nitpicky) is that you DO name 'Mexicans' specifically. And now you're even defending your stereotype bullshit position #7 with stereotype bullshit position #6. "Yeah, I tell 'em how I see 'em!". No, you're just being a giant douche.
That's not even the worst of it though. What's annoying me personally now is your repeated point of "yeah I'm sure EU has similar problems". For as far as me and anyone in my circle of LoL friends has experienced: no, we honestly don't. At all. There's language barriers occasionaly (say 1 in 8 games, only really problematic for 1 in 30 games), sure, but EVERYONE speaks enough english to know top from middle and bottom. Laggy games are incredibly rare and usually the cause of Riot's servers being unstable, as is most likely the case for the US servers. It's enough that you make up your own bullshit and try to defend it by calling yourself edgy, but if you start projecting that onto others and naming that projection as an argument for why your point is right you really do start crossing all sorts of lines.
People like to think that being smart means knowing a lot of stuff. It doesn't. Knowing a lot of stuff makes you a walking encyclopedia. Encyclopedia's don't have the capacity to solve the world's problems and don't know what's really going on in the world. What makes one smart is realizing he doesn't know anything at all. That realization is the first step to avoiding posts of the level you've just made them.
on NA servers the other languages DON'T know enough english to coordinate, and thats the most minor point, the main point is the lag... the language barrier could easily be solved by a simple translator, imagine playing in your native language speaking your native language, I don't expect everyone to "Know enough English" hell i don't know enough spanish, how could I ask that of someone when I cant even ask that of myself....
also I name mexicans specifically because they are the majority, heres a bad example... In america who is said to have owned slaves? white people right?, okay then if you know our history(not that I expect you would i dont know yours after all), then you would know that whites where the vast majority, but there were also black, and even native american slave owners in parts. but because whites where the majority to blame, whites are names, I have no problem with that, its just easier to say whites, and I was saying mexicans. again thats a SHITTY example, but it does fit.
"Do you even know what the average gaming PC in Mexico is made of? No, you don't, because you know jack squat about Mexico."
actually I went to a school where the majority of students were illegals (mostly Mexican) or black in about a 45%/45% and then about 3% asian, and 7% white... don't assume something about me because you don't know anything about me, other then the bullshit trolling i do on this site... and I can honestly say that i have had enough interaction and talking to this "group" ill call them a group and by that I mean people who just recently came from mexico illegally. to know that pretty much from everyone that i have heard from mexico is like 1 large ass ghetto....though some people do speak highly of some areas, the majority still always said the same thing, trust me, you get a mexican who loves his homeland to start talking about it, he wont stop for a while, they are highly cultured people, they just have shitty hardware...
There was no place where I said anything about hating Mexicans, you took that out of proportion and you have continued to mislead this thread into some stupid argument... I will no longer reply to any comments you make in this thread as it is only hurting it at this point.
I was looking at a few things, and I would really like cases similar to the ps3 clear cases, i know this is a minor detail but the Ps3 game cases dont feel cheap, unlike the Xbox ones :P.
Also I think it would be nice to have a built in mic into the controller, but that I don't know about, because laptop mics suck ass and all you hear is feedback, so if they can make that work that would be great.
I really hope they keep the removable harddrives, I really loved this feature in the Xbox 360, it was there in the ps3, but too much trouble. Also I would like to have the install other OS back, and (i know xbox wont have this but), i would like backwards compatibility. though if xbox is switching to blu ray, then it wont happen. though it might.
3D support but not required.
Option to switch game music for your own playlist music, yeah NFS Hot Pursuit had this, it was awesome, whenever there was game music that was supposed to play it worked perfectly and just swapped it out, so you didn't have to mute your music during cutscenes. PS3 Failed on console music this generation you could rarely play it during the game.
Greater customization in the OS menus, I would like to have dynamic themes, and to be able to move buttons and items around recolor, create themes in Photoshop(as I used to do with the unofficial tools for PS3)
CROSS PLATFORM, this is actually something I think we are going to be seeing a lot more of, Especially with any game thats also going to be on steam.
BTW- we wont see any more PS3 or Xbox Exclusive characters for multiplatform games, due to xbox bullshit, they have made it so a publisher cant publish a game with any exclusive characters.... yeah...
There was no place where I said anything about hating Mexicans, you took that out of proportion and you have continued to mislead this thread into some stupid argument... I will no longer reply to any comments you make in this thread as it is only hurting it at this point.
Don't look at me, I stopped responding after post #26. You decided to pick up where you left up.
Let me keep it short this time: you're still missing the point. I'm not saying you said you hate Mexicans. I'm saying you're pointing out a personal issue with a game and then blame it on 'Mexicans', whatever that refers to. Even though you have no sane proof or even a real reason to think that 'Mexicans', as in the people from Mexico, actually cause your problem. That's what's stupid. What you're doing is similar to me going "I was hungry today, but I ran out of cookies... must've been Germans screwing me over again. Oh it's not racist 'cause I know plenty of cool Germans! And I do have experience with them!". Nothing past the first sentence matters. I don't even care if generally 99% of the Germans you know are awesome. You're making a completely unnecessary and unwarranted association between their nationality and your issue. Imagine if everytime I had a problem or issue I'd call out 'Goddamn Taintedwisp ruining my day!'. If that'd annoy you, it would be completely justified.
@RodrigoAlves: Go
Good... Segregation has its benefits too... the main thing is, I dont want those 3rd world countries on the same servers by DEFAULT, if they wanna play on american servers thats fine, but at the same time they shouldn't be on those servers by default, this would drastically reduce the amount of lag.
Region locks... no, But segregating a little bit is a good thing.
The thing about those 3rd world countries is when people dont have the internet to play the game... if you dont have a fast enough machine or connection you cant play something, but sadly consoles dont test your connection to play and they allow anyone to host( Consoles use the actual console as a server to reduce cost). So that means some Mexican or southern american with 256k is sitting there hosting 16-32 people at once... and it ruins every game near about it for everyone else....
then theres the language barrier which fucked up games too.(though in game even google translate quality would be nice for text atleast)
I mean mexicans (no offense) are the exact reason I no longer play league of Legends, because almost every game I go in there a hispanic teammate or 2 and I cant understand them and all team strategy is gone, and then theres the huge lag...
I know they want to play. but if you dont have the hardware to do so i shouldnt have to have an unplayable online game. Like gears of war 3, when it came out no hispanics or anything of the sort, The game was fine 100% lag free, then when mexicans(for the most part) migrated to it, it quickly became a lagfest, of nothing but spanish over the mic, you take 1 step you lag 10....
(i say Hispanics because thats all it is on NA servers I am sure in EU its others)
It sounds like I am just being prejudice because they are a different race. but really I am not, its ruining gameplay across the board.
I hope they do a connection test to play online next console if you dont have 3 MB download(not that high kinda shitty actually) you cant play online at all... Because I really dont mind playing with mexicans i dont, but I want some services to be put into place to ensure the game is not being inhibited by it. Such as Translation of text written by players, Auto mute other countries option, and a connection requirement test of 3MB, i have had 3mb and I can tell you, it is the absolute minimum you should have to play a game, 3mb is very basic internet.
@Taintedwisp: Go
What the fuck are you on about now? Don't you think you're taking the racist crap a bit too far, even for you?
Taintedwisp is actually Skeeter from South Park:
@Mozared:
Racist? Not really I am not being racist.... I am being honest, on NA servers, nearly any game with anyone from mexico(not USA Mexican citizens) lags the hell out of the servers, Its true, I am sorry EU doesn't have these problems, but over here you cant play half of the games library because of it. Today i tried logging into halo 4... and just 1 week ago it was fine, now all i hear is Spanish and i lag like hell...
I wasn't being racist, being racist infers that i hate playing with them BECAUSE they are Mexican, that's not the case, i hate playing with people who live in mexico, cuba, etc(mainly mexico, also a few others though) because they lag the hell outta the game to where its unplayable and its because they have shit internet, you cant play a game where your always seeing an after image of someone else.
I just want it so the game isn't fucked because someone thinks they can play need for speed on 56k-256k internet really not even 1 or 2 Mb Download is enough, but 2 mb is okay, but not really, 3 mb is deff the minimum to play any of these games.
really its not racist, perhaps a bit profiling, but 95% of the lag in all of those games is because of shitty internet where other countries dont have the proper hardware to play online.
also for the record i define all Hispanic people as speaking Spanish :P that includes all southern Americans. I understand its incorrect but its just easier.
i know your in EU, so you dont have these problems, but we are region locked in NA, and its all there is in any game I get into these days. i can go on Xbox, PS3 or PC, and its the same everywhere. Hell i just traded in my Gears of War 3 along with a few other games i love to play online, because the online is now unplayable... i got a single player game (epic Micky 2)
i mean its frustrating to pay for a game, then to either punch in or pay for an online pass only to have it unplayable.
The good news is i am hearing from several of my mexican friends(in NC the mexican population is 30%), that in mexico they are starting to upgrade their shit... but right now 1 mb is considered high in most places.
Please just read this. Just the first page is enough. I promise you you will come out a smarter person.
@Mozared:
Eh i am not going to get into an argument with you about how Mexicans are not a race at all, but an ethnic group there's no purpose in it, you just wish to nit-pick to call out, no one was being racist... so whatever it doesn't matter, lets try to keep this thread on topic... i had written about 2 page response then looked back and thought about it...
okay so another thing i would like to have for the next gen console. is Removable batteries, that charges through a standard USB cable, like how the PS3 controller charges just... removable... though I am liking my current Xbox 360 controller with 3rd party battery and charging dock.
also i would like the controllers to be well thought about the xbox controller was superior this generation for 2 reasons, 1 Weight, a controller should be a certain weight so not to feel cheap, the ps3 controller was super light (only as heavy as a small Iphone), but the xbox controller felt perfect with its batteries/ rechargeable battery, the xbox controller just felt like it would last longer.
the second reason is joystick location, i didn't think it would first looking at the xbox controller, but the joystick on the left side feels 100x better being above the control pad, It makes all the difference, also it being slightly indented helped too.
Something i would like to see gone - Moving the Xbox fucks up the disk, this was done on purpose. its on all their disk drive manufacturers drives, and other dual layers DvD drives dont do this(such as the one in my laptop, or older desktop) that was done on purpose it was a scam. the PS3 blu ray drives already doesn't do this.
@Taintedwisp: Go
Not that I care about or believe anything someone like you (yes, dat be an insult) would say but...
I learned Spanish in school and when I speak it to irritate people online like in LoL there is often someone else that was just speaking English that can speak Spanish as well. Just saying.
@Charysmatic:
But theres my problem with it, if its text, why cant there be even a poor translation built in, hell id settle for google translate, atleast then they can say top, bottom or middle.
it can be frustrating, now that issue I am sure is on the EU servers too though. that language barrier.
and someone like me? meh, Good to know there are other people who speak their whole minds without allowing political correctness bullshit to block them. glad there are others with some testicles.
@Taintedwisp: Go
You literally didn't read a word of the article I linked, did you? You've wandered out of the territory of stereotype #7 straight into that of stereotype #6 now. This has jack all to do with political correctness. If you'd even glanced at the article, you would've seen it says that the statement "Not to be racist but..." is ALWAYS either followed by a racist statement or by one pointing out a difference so neutral it's not worth pointing out. In your case it's the latter. Wtf is the point of talking about 'Mexicans'? Do they ALL speak Spanish? And does that make them all Mexicans? And is their bad connection/gear why they lag? Heck, you need to realize you are one in I don't know how many thousand LoL players - even if EVERY game you play has someone saying "que? quesadilla!" and has lag you still don't know crap about who they are, if they even are 'mexican' and why they are lagging.
Do you even know what the average gaming PC in Mexico is made of? No, you don't, because you know jack squat about Mexico. Hence the reason why it's completely pointless to even name them in regards to your problems. You can replace the word 'Mexican' with 'Frozen Yoghurt Bear' in your posts and it would still make the same amount of sense. The racist part (alright, 'discrimination part', if you want to get so nitpicky) is that you DO name 'Mexicans' specifically. And now you're even defending your stereotype bullshit position #7 with stereotype bullshit position #6. "Yeah, I tell 'em how I see 'em!". No, you're just being a giant douche.
That's not even the worst of it though. What's annoying me personally now is your repeated point of "yeah I'm sure EU has similar problems". For as far as me and anyone in my circle of LoL friends has experienced: no, we honestly don't. At all. There's language barriers occasionaly (say 1 in 8 games, only really problematic for 1 in 30 games), sure, but EVERYONE speaks enough english to know top from middle and bottom. Laggy games are incredibly rare and usually the cause of Riot's servers being unstable, as is most likely the case for the US servers. It's enough that you make up your own bullshit and try to defend it by calling yourself edgy, but if you start projecting that onto others and naming that projection as an argument for why your point is right you really do start crossing all sorts of lines.
People like to think that being smart means knowing a lot of stuff. It doesn't. Knowing a lot of stuff makes you a walking encyclopedia. Encyclopedia's don't have the capacity to solve the world's problems and don't know what's really going on in the world. What makes one smart is realizing he doesn't know anything at all. That realization is the first step to avoiding posts of the level you've just made them.
@Mozared:
on NA servers the other languages DON'T know enough english to coordinate, and thats the most minor point, the main point is the lag... the language barrier could easily be solved by a simple translator, imagine playing in your native language speaking your native language, I don't expect everyone to "Know enough English" hell i don't know enough spanish, how could I ask that of someone when I cant even ask that of myself....
also I name mexicans specifically because they are the majority, heres a bad example... In america who is said to have owned slaves? white people right?, okay then if you know our history(not that I expect you would i dont know yours after all), then you would know that whites where the vast majority, but there were also black, and even native american slave owners in parts. but because whites where the majority to blame, whites are names, I have no problem with that, its just easier to say whites, and I was saying mexicans. again thats a SHITTY example, but it does fit.
"Do you even know what the average gaming PC in Mexico is made of? No, you don't, because you know jack squat about Mexico."
actually I went to a school where the majority of students were illegals (mostly Mexican) or black in about a 45%/45% and then about 3% asian, and 7% white... don't assume something about me because you don't know anything about me, other then the bullshit trolling i do on this site... and I can honestly say that i have had enough interaction and talking to this "group" ill call them a group and by that I mean people who just recently came from mexico illegally. to know that pretty much from everyone that i have heard from mexico is like 1 large ass ghetto....though some people do speak highly of some areas, the majority still always said the same thing, trust me, you get a mexican who loves his homeland to start talking about it, he wont stop for a while, they are highly cultured people, they just have shitty hardware...
There was no place where I said anything about hating Mexicans, you took that out of proportion and you have continued to mislead this thread into some stupid argument... I will no longer reply to any comments you make in this thread as it is only hurting it at this point.
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Back to the console thread.
I was looking at a few things, and I would really like cases similar to the ps3 clear cases, i know this is a minor detail but the Ps3 game cases dont feel cheap, unlike the Xbox ones :P.
Also I think it would be nice to have a built in mic into the controller, but that I don't know about, because laptop mics suck ass and all you hear is feedback, so if they can make that work that would be great.
I really hope they keep the removable harddrives, I really loved this feature in the Xbox 360, it was there in the ps3, but too much trouble. Also I would like to have the install other OS back, and (i know xbox wont have this but), i would like backwards compatibility. though if xbox is switching to blu ray, then it wont happen. though it might.
3D support but not required.
Option to switch game music for your own playlist music, yeah NFS Hot Pursuit had this, it was awesome, whenever there was game music that was supposed to play it worked perfectly and just swapped it out, so you didn't have to mute your music during cutscenes. PS3 Failed on console music this generation you could rarely play it during the game.
Greater customization in the OS menus, I would like to have dynamic themes, and to be able to move buttons and items around recolor, create themes in Photoshop(as I used to do with the unofficial tools for PS3)
CROSS PLATFORM, this is actually something I think we are going to be seeing a lot more of, Especially with any game thats also going to be on steam.
BTW- we wont see any more PS3 or Xbox Exclusive characters for multiplatform games, due to xbox bullshit, they have made it so a publisher cant publish a game with any exclusive characters.... yeah...
Don't look at me, I stopped responding after post #26. You decided to pick up where you left up.
Let me keep it short this time: you're still missing the point. I'm not saying you said you hate Mexicans. I'm saying you're pointing out a personal issue with a game and then blame it on 'Mexicans', whatever that refers to. Even though you have no sane proof or even a real reason to think that 'Mexicans', as in the people from Mexico, actually cause your problem. That's what's stupid. What you're doing is similar to me going "I was hungry today, but I ran out of cookies... must've been Germans screwing me over again. Oh it's not racist 'cause I know plenty of cool Germans! And I do have experience with them!". Nothing past the first sentence matters. I don't even care if generally 99% of the Germans you know are awesome. You're making a completely unnecessary and unwarranted association between their nationality and your issue. Imagine if everytime I had a problem or issue I'd call out 'Goddamn Taintedwisp ruining my day!'. If that'd annoy you, it would be completely justified.
@Taintedwisp: Go
Your god is punishing you. Lawl.