Yeah I think I suggested before to make flame wars thread. I just love to flame sometimes.
And those who take everything seriously should not check that subforum.
I'm just gonna bypass EW here for a second - I've seen so called 'flame forums' around (strong discussion and need to be able to take the language for joining) and it's not a bad idea per se. I'll unlock this so people can comment on it. Let me remind you that this is not a democracy, but I guess the mod team (and specifically Sixen) is always open for ideas from the community and if strong arguments can be made, I'm sure we can consider the idea. If it is indeed a dumb idea, I'm sure no one will be interested and the thread will die out of itself.
`Flame wars Sub-forum`. Really?. Is that the place where rationale can be safely thrown out?
The premise of the idea is naturally flawed. A forum which is(and in this case, has to be) `independent` from the actions of the moderation team is subject to abuse and the violation of all our(and `General`) forum rules.
Even if there would those that would support the idea, it does not necessitate the idea being good or viable(For the community as a whole) based on our goals for this website. Any votes for or against this(From the users) would thus be irrelevant.
Classification of topics that would go to this sub forum(with its reduced scope) vs Stay in Off-topic will never be clear and will always be subject to debate and thus more `flaming`.
This is a stupid idea. You don't need a special forum to have civilized discourse and if you want to flame, there's a million other message boards out there where moderators are 14 and tolerate it.
Obviously I don't mean a pure 'flame forum' where people just flame. That would be a tad useless. I'm talking about a 'no holds barred' discussion forum where everyone can discuss things as they like. Allakhazam has one, for example. I personally don't think we need one per se, but I don't see anything wrong with giving people who do think so the chance to discuss the idea. Or having everybody post that it's useless, if that's what they think.
People can have "no-holds barred" discussions already. A flame, be definition, is a useless comment meant to enrage the other person. I don't know why we would want to have those kinds of discussions. If you're saying we should just have more honest discussions, I feel like this forum already has that. Most people here aren't afraid to tell you when a bad idea is bad.
And I mostly agree with that sentiment, but people keep missing my point - all I wanted to do was unlock the thread for people to voice their opinions (or not). Whether the idea might be stupid or brilliant, I just think it should be up for discussion. That's all.
This thread itself may turn into a flame thread. Also, i think we need it, so people who want to part of things can avoid if needed. (The temptation to read if it's just out in the open is too much, honestly.)
The occasional flame war thread
eg. http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/42073-do-you-consider-yourself-part-of-an-organized-religion/#posts .... http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/34705-are-we-immortal/#posts
I feel these deserve their own sub-forum. :)
Yeah I think I suggested before to make flame wars thread. I just love to flame sometimes.
And those who take everything seriously should not check that subforum.
@Doubleclick123: Go
The 1st link isn`t bad. People keeping it civil.
2nd link went off-course and got kinda retarded.
But anyway, dumb idea.
I'm just gonna bypass EW here for a second - I've seen so called 'flame forums' around (strong discussion and need to be able to take the language for joining) and it's not a bad idea per se. I'll unlock this so people can comment on it. Let me remind you that this is not a democracy, but I guess the mod team (and specifically Sixen) is always open for ideas from the community and if strong arguments can be made, I'm sure we can consider the idea. If it is indeed a dumb idea, I'm sure no one will be interested and the thread will die out of itself.
I see one reason why this wont happen: Flaming on Blizzard:D
@Mozared: Go
`Flame wars Sub-forum`. Really?. Is that the place where rationale can be safely thrown out?
The premise of the idea is naturally flawed. A forum which is(and in this case, has to be) `independent` from the actions of the moderation team is subject to abuse and the violation of all our(and `General`) forum rules.
Even if there would those that would support the idea, it does not necessitate the idea being good or viable(For the community as a whole) based on our goals for this website. Any votes for or against this(From the users) would thus be irrelevant.
Classification of topics that would go to this sub forum(with its reduced scope) vs Stay in Off-topic will never be clear and will always be subject to debate and thus more `flaming`.
This is a stupid idea. You don't need a special forum to have civilized discourse and if you want to flame, there's a million other message boards out there where moderators are 14 and tolerate it.
As long as you dont take any thread that has some flaming going on instead of moderating when needed and throw it to sub forum, I dont care.
Obviously I don't mean a pure 'flame forum' where people just flame. That would be a tad useless. I'm talking about a 'no holds barred' discussion forum where everyone can discuss things as they like. Allakhazam has one, for example. I personally don't think we need one per se, but I don't see anything wrong with giving people who do think so the chance to discuss the idea. Or having everybody post that it's useless, if that's what they think.
@Mozared: Go
People can have "no-holds barred" discussions already. A flame, be definition, is a useless comment meant to enrage the other person. I don't know why we would want to have those kinds of discussions. If you're saying we should just have more honest discussions, I feel like this forum already has that. Most people here aren't afraid to tell you when a bad idea is bad.
@Lucavious: Go
And I mostly agree with that sentiment, but people keep missing my point - all I wanted to do was unlock the thread for people to voice their opinions (or not). Whether the idea might be stupid or brilliant, I just think it should be up for discussion. That's all.
This thread itself may turn into a flame thread. Also, i think we need it, so people who want to part of things can avoid if needed. (The temptation to read if it's just out in the open is too much, honestly.)