I wish is where that simple but unfortunately no, I still require the rotated model version as i have to apply a explicit siteop before even applying it to an actor. I need it rotated before, not after which has no effect.
Thanks that seems to have done it. I had tried that with the sop 45, but know the right numbers helps. Its weird tho, as site ops usually are, i had to apply it twice- first time didn't take, so i deleted it, hit undo and reapplied it a second time and it finally stuck.