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  • #22

  TheAlmaity Feb 01, 2012 at 00:42 UTC - 0 likes

  Hello :) Thanks for the comment. Seeing as its been ages since I did something on the map, and even longer on the project page, this was quite a surprise, lol.

  About the stats... I've already implemented them fully and don't see a need to change them.
  Strength gives +2 damage and I think a half or a third of the life (total, armor and regen) values of Stamina.
  Agility gives +1 damage and movement and attack speed increases (Attacks are twice as fast at 255 agility)
  Intelligence gives shields, energy cap and regen, and +3 spell damage (or 1 DPS for damage over time)
  Stamina gives a big boost to all shield and life stats.

  So yeah, I like how my attributes are currently set up. I don't want to split up ranged and melee damage between agility and strength because most heroes are ranged, and the ones I actually gave high base agility are melee. The Thor is ranged and should be strength/stamina based imo, and so on. Forcing ranged heroes and melee heroes to pick a specific stat for damage is not something I'd like to do, because then if I wanted a hero to have a certain stat high by default, I would also then have to make him either melee or ranged because of that, which might not fit the hero.

  Also, I'm not adding a fifth attribute, mostly because the SC2 UI only support 4 visible attributes, so the fifth one would end up hidden.

  About a trap based hero... I like the idea, the main problem I see with that though is that Gates of Darkness is very fast paced and doesn't really leave you with enough time to set up a minefield - the hero would probably be forced to throw all his traps directly underneath enemy feet. Also, the hero would probably have some similarities with the Engineer, who can set up Auto Turrets and Point Defense drones to hold an area (And his third spell either speeds up the auto turret or makes the point defense drone emit a guardian shield (If used on a hero, it restores shields and energy))4

  Unfortunately, I'm currently working on my other map - RuneCraft.
  While no one ever told me that this map was bad or that they disliked it, everyone is a lot more enthusiastic about RuneCraft, so I will continue my work there. If I do continue Gates of Darkness someday, I will probably focus on putting more side missions into it, and reworking all the old heroes to incorporate some things I learned in hero design since i first made them.

  Projects: Starmon - RuneCraft
  

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  • #21

  E8itium Jan 30, 2012 at 17:27 UTC - 0 likes

  Sounds kool.

  Small suggestion for attributes, if energy exists and weapons are separated into classes. one has either minor (1-49%) or major (50%+) effect for such.

  *Strength:

  melee (major),

  ranged (minor),

  HP+regen (minor),

  (carry amount..?)

  *Agility:

  melee (major),

  ranged (major),

  speed (major),

  (evade..?)

  *Intelligence:

  ranged (minor),

  spells (major),

  energy (major),

  shields+armor (minor)

  *Stamina:

  melee (minor),

  spells (minor),

  energy (minor),

  life+armor (minor)

  Pst, how about endurance? + character class that can set up traps :D

  Greetings from the Swarm, today's host is..? Dammit Scar, it wasn't supposed to be your lunch!

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  • #20

  Hobrow Jul 29, 2011 at 20:48 UTC - 0 likes

  Things to fix:

  • At the start message x has choosen y waves etc.There is a space missing in front of the has.
  • Change the blink hotkey to something else than B ... for example D
  • Add a range indicator for Blink
  • You wanted to add a weapon to the nexus so it doesnt die by 1 unit
  • The diagonal lines to the last 2 spawns gave me some extreme frame drops.

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  • #19

  Hobrow May 20, 2011 at 14:48 UTC - 0 likes

  Since you asked for hero ideas, here's mine:

  Hero: Mechanic

  Role: Support

  Abilitys:

  - Turrets:

  Flamethrower Turret (smale range, cone damage), Gattling Turret (less damage but AoE, range 6), Machine Gun Turret (higher damage than gattling, single target, range 6 maybe 7), Missile Turret (slow attack speed, high AoE damage, huge range 10-13 or so) all turrets have a limited duration, higher levels increase damage done

  - Becons:

  Healing Station (heals nearby allys (channeled, duration 100s), Recharge Station (restores nearby allys energy (channeled, duration 100s) higher levels increase healed/restored value

  - Cover:

  smale builiding (sandbags?) that grants cover, increases the armor of nearby allys (has high attack priority) higher levels increase granted armor as well as hitpoints

  - Tactical Nuke(ultimate):

  The mechanic can build one (1) missile silo, allowing him to build and launch one nuke every x seconds. higher levels increase damage done as well as AoE range

  Last edited May 20, 2011 by Hobrow
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  • #18

  Hobrow Apr 30, 2011 at 09:07 UTC - 0 likes

  Darth Sentry bugs:

  • forcefield charges do not recharge
  • command card for new skill levels does not have a cancel/back button

  other things:

  • difficulty scaling of the final waves scales a bit too well, the more players you bring
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  • #17

  TheAlmaity Apr 29, 2011 at 23:17 UTC - 0 likes

  Thx for the feedback Helral!

  About the tooltips: totally forgot to edit those. The Summoner way way OP before and I had to nerf the unit numbers... Forgot to edit tooltips... Thx for saying :)

  Hero picking... No idea what went wrong there :/ Can you try it again one or two times? Maybe there was some lag involved or something... Not sure what else it could be, since it never happened before

  Going to remove the healing shops... They used to be item shops but I scrapped that, and the heal doesnt work :(

  Will check about the ability learning and see what I can do. With visible, do you mean greyed out or different?

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  • #16

  Helral Apr 29, 2011 at 22:31 UTC - 0 likes

  some bugs that I found:

  • tried to pick assassin near summoner, got summoner instead.
  • summoner ability tooltip doesn't match amount of units spawned.
    • spawns 1 ullie less then ability says
    • spawns less roaches then ability says

  other things I bumped into:

  • couldnt figure out how the healing shop worked.
  • abilities stayed visible at learn area, while I couldn't pick them anymore. (bug? feature?)

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  • #15

  TheAlmaity Apr 25, 2011 at 21:31 UTC - 0 likes

  since the last comment is from over half a year ago, I'd just like to say that this project is still active!

  Just finished a new hero: "Darth Sentry"

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  • #14

  TheAlmaity Oct 18, 2010 at 11:35 UTC - 0 likes

  Thanks Frozen :) unfortunately i dont get notifications for comments, so i didnt notice untill today >.<

  Phase Massacre has been fixed. For some reason the "search" effect on level 2 only searched for 1 unit to apply the damage. fixed this to unlimited, so its AoE works now.

  Phase strike is based on melee bonus damage. I'll make it deal 50% of its original damage. Autocast for now is based on triggers since when i made this ability i didnt know how to implement autocast with a minimum range :/ I'll play around with it and fix it.

  Phase Distort - Yea, i played recently with my friend, and it seems OP so it'll be reduced. i can't add an AoE range indicator, since it's radius changes per level, and the indicators dont scale themselved >.<

  Time Distort... Im not too sure about this ability, but it's duration will definitely be decreased. It might even be removed and i would add a different ability in it's place (i learned to use force effects, he he), and put this one on another hero.

  I'm not doing anything on items yet - i just wanna have a version that can be played with 8 players and is as bugless as it can be. One hero is already done, altough might need fixing, other hero will be started soon, boss is done (needs testing), all heroes need some balancing (Phase Assasin and Destroyer are primary targets for the nerfhammer, while murloc and some others will be made a bit stronger)

  I'm not changing wave spawns and dont plan to. What i will change though is that bigger units like archons, collosi and tanks actually have more health and damage than other units, and smaller units like marines and zerglings will have a lot less health and damage, but larger numbers. You probably noticed that all units die at the same rate :(
  The reason i'm not changing the waves is because my triggers are ridiculously messy. They work well, and aren't exactly badly made, but hard to modify since i don't use arrays. If i want to modify something, i have to change the value for each lane in 2 triggers :/ im planning on changing all the triggers to use variable arrays and be much shorter to allow simpler editing.

  And the thing about the cloak effect on phase assasin... believe it or not, that was my first idea of how he should look. Only problem is i don't know how to apply the cloak texture to a not cloaked unit >.< He will also get the afterimages like the HT has in melee, and i just got an idea how to change the phase assasin's look. If it works, he'll be light blue and transparent.

  I'll take all your item suggestions in consideration, but i have to find out whether adding effects to weapons is possible through items, because creating a copy of each weapon with the additional effects is just too much to do...

  Also, thanks for the link :) I'll see if i can use those.

  Any new comments welcome.

  p.s. theres a new version of the map up. it's not a complete update, but i wanted to test it out with my friend and my map is at the bottom of popularity anyway

  Will update the description of the map here on mapster right away as well.

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  • #13

  FrozenWaltz Oct 08, 2010 at 19:21 UTC - 0 likes

  Played a few rounds using Phase Assassin, pretty fun hero but, overpowered ...

  Phase Assassin

  Phase Strike

  • +10 spell damage per INT makes his spammable Phase Strike VERY imbalanced.
  • Try decreasing it to just +5 per INT.
  • Allow auto-cast to be switched off/on ?
  • Changing it to base of AGI would also be better since he's an AGI hero.

  Phase Distort

  • Try decreasing it's duration and cooldown but increase DoT (Damage over Time)
  • I dunno how hard would it be but, adding an AoE range indicator would be nice.

  Time Distort

  • Decreasing it's duration.
  • Decrease it's CD.

  Phase Massacre

  • Try decreasing the number of attacks but add in an AoE like Phase Strike ?
  • eg. 714 strikes with 300 damage aoe (Phase Strike)

  Others

  • Try decreasing his HP as well, and make him rely more on shields.
  • Add in the "invisible" render yet remain visible to wave spawns ? (just to look cooler)

  Items

  • Need energy replenishing items other than shields and health.
  • Items too strong early game / too weak late game.
  • Item merging/upgrade?
  • eg. Two Tier I merge into a Tier II item with same but improved effect, and so on.

  Wave Spawns

  • Low tier spawns on earlier waves and high tier spawns on later waves ?
  • eg. Wave 110 (marines) , wave 1120 (marauders) , wave 2130 (ghost)
  • ps. This is just a suggestion based off Alexon88's feedback.

  Final Bosses ... ?

  • Add in 2 bosses for the twins that needed to be killed.
  • Add in a final boss after the 2 twins ? ...

  Item Suggestions

  Psi Reave (Weapon Slot)

  • Damage Bonus.
  • X% melee Cleave damage bonus in X radius.

  Accel Reactor (Weapon Slot)

  • Damage Bonus.
  • X% projectile Splash damage bonus in X radius.
  • Attack speed decrease by X%.

  Rigid Cell (Chest Slot)

  • Damage received reduction by X%.

  Hero Suggestions

  "The Abandoned Warrior"

  • Zealot Golem/Statue Model
  • Melee Tank/Support Hero
  • STR or STAM based
  • Good shields, thick health, slow attack rate, medium damage.

  Skills

  1. Intimidating Rush (Zealot Charge Animation) - 7 seconds CD

  • Rush towards a target enemy. No additional effect. (Lvl 1)
  • Decreases attack rate of enemies by 20% in 3 radius at end of Rush. (Lvl 2)
  • Decreases damage and attack rate of enemies by 35% in 5 radius at end of Rush. (Lvl 3)

  2. Cold Frustration - 20 seconds CD

  • Stuns enemies in 3/4/5 radius by 4/6/8 seconds.

  3. Existence Withering - 30 seconds CD

  • Enemies near the hero take 75/100/125 damage per second in 4/5/6 radius for 3/5/7 seconds.

  4. Oblivious Repulsion - 85 seconds CD [ULTI]

  • Takes 0% damage from enemies for 10 seconds.
  • Enemies receive 10xSTR damage upon attacking the hero.

  Try looking at the map in this link as well. Not mine, but could help. http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/specters-hero-pack/

  These are just merely opinions of mine, just hope they're useful.

  Last edited Oct 09, 2010 by FrozenWaltz