i dont know about you but i need a very good reason to buy LotV (and Hots) and if the bnet + arcade doesn't change i dont' see any. i also think bnet 2.0 will be in place for some time and maybe even wc4 will use it. it's in their interest to make it succeed. i also think tray is there for a reason and they might not understand our problems or it's too much work to gather since it's spread all over (that's why i made this topic).
also Heroes will most likely use bnet 2.0 and also the same editor.... they just HAVE TO fix things,i really believe in that.
i would really hope for a real discussion based on arguments to understand decisions and to make things clear why we want those things and why we think it would improve things.
turtle thats all editor related, not directly arcade and bnet. we could also open a new thread with editor things collected in one post. i want it all in one post for easy access, arguments are in the single posts.
i could give you thousand things i want to have in editor but the chances are even lower than sc2 and bnet2.0 itself. i think bnet 2.0 will be used for more games and therefore they HAVE to work on it. the editor will most likely stay bugged forever and i will fill those crash reports again and again.
oh i thought only i have latency issues in the arcade (very slow internet). switching pages also often loads the "wrong" picture for a map. i think this could be handled if some information would be stored local and not loaded again and again. lower the damn refresh rate and/or give us a refresh button.
joecap, i know about UI-editor i think you cannot hide this extra chat window, it's also needed to kick ppl, but is just annoying. you always type into 2 different chats if a player is lagging and not disconnected.
tya is right about reviews, first one stays there forever, in good and bad ways. just show the ones with most likes of the last two month, others should move to an archieve or something. it should also be possible to write a nd review after a long time or lot's of patches.
btw tya, what should replace the star rating then? it's true it is a killer for new maps or to test some, but that's why i wanted the feature to disable ratings while being development.
Problem: Hard to fill lobbies of unpopular / new / low rated maps; Find players to test our maps
Possible Solutions:
- Lobbies with a name
- Reworked popularity system
- New category for test maps
- No rating for test maps
- Do not kick AFK-Players, only take host status away
Problem: Lobby can be blocked
Possible Solutions:
- Lower duration of pending players
- Prevent reinvites
Problem: Lack of feedback for mapmakers
Possible Solutions:
- Add some statistics
- Allow more reviews
- Add a bug report function
- Show updated reviews (mark as unread or something)
- Let reviews/ratings expire
- Unhelpful button for reviews
- Let us answer to reviews similiar to Google Play
- Show us as uploading and not as online while uploading a map (missing chat)
Problem: Maps cannot easily be found
Possible Solutions:
- Show uploaded maps in profile
- Add tags for maps
- Better search (similiar to)
- More categories
Problem: No efficient organisation of clans
Possible solutions:
- Let them expire
- Connect clan to a map
- Need minimum number of players to create a clan / not letting it expire
- Allow clantags more than once
- Leader should be demoted after a long offline period
- It should be possible to set up the same chat for map / group / clan
- Give us more options to filter groups (online, added last, officiers, etc)
Problem: Visual improvements
Possible improvements:
- Rating colours
- Do not use the localisation of the map within the arcade (Info screen titles)
- Credits section to credit people who helped in making the map (with and without link to profile)
- No extra chat window for laggers (it's annoying to use them)
I have created Problem-Categories to show which problem shall be addressed with a suggestion
Old List below
they still update sc2 so i thought they might read this one day:
let us name our lobbies
map information titles are shown in a different language (depends on the map localization, no need for that)
don't kick afk ppl, just take the host status away
let me see the maps someone has created in his/her profile
let us disable ratings for alpha testing or even add a modus for maps (development stage, no rating possible yet)
give us a bug report function similiar to reviews just unlimited, only creator is able to see to prevent spamming, flamming etc
remove the extra chat window when someone is lagging!!!
make all your models available for modding, (create mods with wow models, diablo models etc), move these mods to all new games with an editor
let us filter group members finally, not only officiers, "online" would be helpful to filter
make the launcher faster than starting the editor, press test document, leave game, login
give me TRD clan tag for europe :( ( i might understand if they would decline this one)
-update-
let us kick pending players (or greatly lower the duration to decline if some1 is not responding)
rating colours (not highest prio :D)
fix latency of bnet 2.0 in general
allow more than 1 review after lots of patches or a fixed time
do not show the same reviews for the whole life time of a map first
give us more options to search through the arcade
-update2-
give us unhelpful buttons for reviews
give us a tag system for maps, so we can search for them (and actually find them)
a credits section is a nice thing
let us connect a map to a clan or group
collections for maps (nice to have)
finally fix "show profile", often says this player doesnt have a profile
showing profile of a "real friend" shows only wrong profile
more categories ( also counts towards better search)
fix the banks in ext mod
-update3-
let us save multiplayer games and also let us disable this feature in triggers
let us specify options for observers (show world tooltips)
let us see which map some1 is currently playing
give us some statistics about our maps
allow the launcher to download arcade maps
let map owner, group owner specify the chat ( for example: all chats for a custom map (the map, the group and the clan chat) shall link to the same chat, if wanted, instead of having 3 different ones)
do not show us as online (show us a uploading) while uploading a map
let clans expire if the leader was offline for a certain amount of time +
give us an option to change leader of a clan (if all/some officiers agree for example)
everyone allowed to post their ideas regarding bnet 2.0 and arcade. i will add them to the list
to be continued...
for everyone who didnt see yet: http://imgur.com/ahOQEqo
that's an editor feature, i only wanted to gather arcade / bnet features here
@wargirlwargirl: Go
i dont know about you but i need a very good reason to buy LotV (and Hots) and if the bnet + arcade doesn't change i dont' see any. i also think bnet 2.0 will be in place for some time and maybe even wc4 will use it. it's in their interest to make it succeed. i also think tray is there for a reason and they might not understand our problems or it's too much work to gather since it's spread all over (that's why i made this topic).
also Heroes will most likely use bnet 2.0 and also the same editor.... they just HAVE TO fix things,i really believe in that.
i would really hope for a real discussion based on arguments to understand decisions and to make things clear why we want those things and why we think it would improve things.
bumped and updated first post. plz support my clan suggestion http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/15699632888#1
@njordys: Go
what is checkpoint saving?
@finiteturtles: Go
turtle thats all editor related, not directly arcade and bnet. we could also open a new thread with editor things collected in one post. i want it all in one post for easy access, arguments are in the single posts.
i could give you thousand things i want to have in editor but the chances are even lower than sc2 and bnet2.0 itself. i think bnet 2.0 will be used for more games and therefore they HAVE to work on it. the editor will most likely stay bugged forever and i will fill those crash reports again and again.
oh i thought only i have latency issues in the arcade (very slow internet). switching pages also often loads the "wrong" picture for a map. i think this could be handled if some information would be stored local and not loaded again and again. lower the damn refresh rate and/or give us a refresh button.
joecap, i know about UI-editor i think you cannot hide this extra chat window, it's also needed to kick ppl, but is just annoying. you always type into 2 different chats if a player is lagging and not disconnected.
tya is right about reviews, first one stays there forever, in good and bad ways. just show the ones with most likes of the last two month, others should move to an archieve or something. it should also be possible to write a nd review after a long time or lot's of patches.
btw tya, what should replace the star rating then? it's true it is a killer for new maps or to test some, but that's why i wanted the feature to disable ratings while being development.
Problem: Hard to fill lobbies of unpopular / new / low rated maps; Find players to test our maps
Possible Solutions:
- Lobbies with a name
- Reworked popularity system
- New category for test maps
- No rating for test maps
- Do not kick AFK-Players, only take host status away
Problem: Lobby can be blocked
Possible Solutions:
- Lower duration of pending players
- Prevent reinvites
Problem: Lack of feedback for mapmakers
Possible Solutions:
- Add some statistics
- Allow more reviews
- Add a bug report function
- Show updated reviews (mark as unread or something)
- Let reviews/ratings expire
- Unhelpful button for reviews
- Let us answer to reviews similiar to Google Play
- Show us as uploading and not as online while uploading a map (missing chat)
Problem: Maps cannot easily be found
Possible Solutions:
- Show uploaded maps in profile
- Add tags for maps
- Better search (similiar to)
- More categories
Problem: No efficient organisation of clans
Possible solutions:
- Let them expire
- Connect clan to a map
- Need minimum number of players to create a clan / not letting it expire
- Allow clantags more than once
- Leader should be demoted after a long offline period
- It should be possible to set up the same chat for map / group / clan
- Give us more options to filter groups (online, added last, officiers, etc)
Problem: Visual improvements
Possible improvements:
- Rating colours
- Do not use the localisation of the map within the arcade (Info screen titles)
- Credits section to credit people who helped in making the map (with and without link to profile)
- No extra chat window for laggers (it's annoying to use them)
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I have created Problem-Categories to show which problem shall be addressed with a suggestion
Old List below
they still update sc2 so i thought they might read this one day:
-update-
-update2-
-update3-
everyone allowed to post their ideas regarding bnet 2.0 and arcade. i will add them to the list
to be continued...