I am absolutely dumfounded by your position. This is the kind of ignorant statement that can only be made by someone who has clearly never spent time playing maps past page one or is only trying to troll. I make it a point to play maps at page 10+ just to try things out and I have found numerous games that were really fun, but would never get to page 1 b/c it's not already there and people won't join...why because it's not on page one and people won't join. The entire system keeps the known popular and the unknown not. It has nothing to do with quality.
How can you say that you can't find good maps past page one? So you're telling me that if I just created a map and it's awesome, it will be on page 1 no matter what? I'm sorry that's not the case by any means. People have to play a map to get it on page one, it doesn't just start popular b/c it's good.
I'll give you one game that is wonderful and isn't on page one. It's called Flagship Battle. It's a great game, but hasn't got much play time. It's rising on the Up and Coming list and the popularity list b/c it is good. But it's not on page one. Why is that?
I would really love to understand why you think such a thing before I have to fly to Europe and slap some sense into you. I already want to go to meet this hot chick in Cork. It wouldn't be much of a detour and would be worth it.
Your statement is actually not true. If you really follow the custom map scene, Blizzard had stagnated the counter for the popular maps like Marine Arena, Star Battle, SotiS, etc etc. aka. sabotage the popular maps. During that day you see mid page maps like Debates, Smashcraft, Aiur Chef, StarJeweled to occupy page 2, Vexal TD, Left 2 Die to occupy top spots. However after Blizzard release the coup de tat on the counter of popular maps, after a certain period of time, they got back to top page.
That Blizzard experiment above concludes that no matter how you try to mix it, most players still look for SotiS, Marine Arena, Star Battle even if it's burried in page 56 or 89 or whatever. And those maps that have been given a chance to occupy top pages are still not performing well (in terms of popularity).
Having said that, I disagree that non popular maps = suck. Smashcraft is awesome! But it lacks element that makes it popular. Debates is genius, but not everyone loves to think. Well, let's say Canon in D is a great great song, but it will NEVER EVER beat Justin Bieber in terms of popularity... Heck take Rebecca's Black Friday song. It's so popular because it has the elements that make it popular.
I still think that fixing Fun or Not is the step that Blizzard has to make. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
Reposting again. Simple Fix imo is Fun or Not being not retarded. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
Simple Fix imo is Fun or Not being not retarded. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
Simple Fix imo is Fun or Not being not retarded.
Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
I think this is the simplest fix we could wish for...
Your statement is actually not true. If you really follow the custom map scene, Blizzard had stagnated the counter for the popular maps like Marine Arena, Star Battle, SotiS, etc etc. aka. sabotage the popular maps. During that day you see mid page maps like Debates, Smashcraft, Aiur Chef, StarJeweled to occupy page 2, Vexal TD, Left 2 Die to occupy top spots. However after Blizzard release the coup de tat on the counter of popular maps, after a certain period of time, they got back to top page.
That Blizzard experiment above concludes that no matter how you try to mix it, most players still look for SotiS, Marine Arena, Star Battle even if it's burried in page 56 or 89 or whatever. And those maps that have been given a chance to occupy top pages are still not performing well (in terms of popularity).
Having said that, I disagree that non popular maps = suck. Smashcraft is awesome! But it lacks element that makes it popular. Debates is genius, but not everyone loves to think. Well, let's say Canon in D is a great great song, but it will NEVER EVER beat Justin Bieber in terms of popularity... Heck take Rebecca's Black Friday song. It's so popular because it has the elements that make it popular.
I still think that fixing Fun or Not is the step that Blizzard has to make. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
Reposting again. Simple Fix imo is Fun or Not being not retarded. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
Simple Fix imo is Fun or Not being not retarded. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
Simple Fix imo is Fun or Not being not retarded. Right now Fun or Not = Most Popular. It should have different logic that includes:
- Not in top 3 pages of Most Popular
- Games that has been voted NOT FUN for so many times by majority should not show up anymore. This could mean the map is not even finished yet or still in testing.
- Games that has been voted FUN for so many times and has shown up in the top 3 pages of the new Map pool of UPCOMING, should no longer be included in FUN or NOT
- Thus, the list of UPCOMING will not include Most Popular. and all the good hidden new maps will show up in the UPCOMING tabs.
- Now after X amount of time, as the number of good maps in the pool has increased, the criteria will change from Not in top 3 pages to Not in top 4 pages., then Not in top 5 pages etc. etc. Until Pop Reset, go back to Not in top 3 pages
I think this is the simplest fix we could wish for...