Thanks for the notice. I'm mostly playing Heaven Besieged on NA nowadays, or mapping, or doing other things..
As for the issue... map crashes make me a sad duck ;/
The only hint I've had was "it's probably custom models". Thus it's probably imported stuff. So what I'm gonna do is: first - replace custom models (wow dodads for ice and jungle stages) with hots stuff. Then, if it still crashes - revert ground textures to original, which will look lousy but still better than constantly crashing.
Here's the theory:
I'll try to push 1st fix by the end of the week. Sadly I don't think there is a reliable way to test if it works or not, so if after update game continues to crash let me know and I'll initiate second fix phase.
Edit: I really really want to believe that it's imported ground textures that are at fault. So first I'll upload version which doesn't have them + is upped to HOTS. We'll go from there instead.
Edit2: Ok, uploaded updated version. If you decide to play it and it crashes, please let me know. I'll be removing imported stuff one by one until fatal error stops.
Them: give us some art for feature.
Me: I don't think I have anything feature worth.
Them: just give us your loading screen, we'll do something about it
Me: okay.
...
Them: use this instead >.>
And the name.. well.. let's not talk about that :D
Looking back, it's funny how things turned out so well. I started making bomberbot because I wanted to play with other people, and purchasing console for one game was improbable for me, especially when it looked like it was dying on consoles as well. And now, you can check this out for free without the need to purchase sc2 (horray for starters edition).
I initially wanted to this to be the same as other bomberman games, except on sc2, but things like b-net key detect delay, and troubles making no-collision bomber happened. I can probably recreate collision-less bomber, but by now I came to appreciate choices and tactics that this change provides, would be a shame to take them away.
So in the end, this turned out to be a little bit different from standard, probably for the better.
But, there are more things to be explored, probably some time after I beat hots campaign I'll come back and start experimenting around idea of 1-2 player PvE campaign, like in original bomberman, but where it doesn't get boring after you've got all the powerups (something that was planned initially but then dropped).
Oh fun times. We'll see how it goes. For now, thanks again to everyone who played, <3 all of you.
As always, looking for more challengers, anyone wants to play? :D
Thanks Ahli, but yeah, those I have. What I meant was these pictures without "Bomberbot" on them, since I'll need to replace it with "Blasterbots". I discovered my test folder with multiple variations and text displacements, but original, clean images are nomewhere to be found, most likely lost them in last hdd format :/
I'll probably be able replace name on loading screen, but not sure on what can be done with arcade thumbnail. I think I'll screenshot some explosions and then will try to paste new one on top of words. We'll see how it'll turn out.
It doesn't affect anything, I'll just upload map by different name, no changes since I'm working on something else atm. And I'll probably do so during weekends, because I'm having hard times finding default pictures I used for arcade thumbnail/Loading screen. If it comes to worst I'll need to remake them. Hopefully I have a backup on one of my usbs, otherwise T_T.
@kuvasz88: Go
What is even bigger shame is that I'm having such troubles deciding name. Right now I'm looking at arcade thumbnail icon, feels like blasterbots is the only name that even remotely suits that picture. So there, it's done =D
@Trieva: Go
@CrazyTwigman: Go
Thanks. I feel that everything except bombs and bots would fit better a flash game than sc2 map =(
But Bombs&Bots doesn't feel like a right choice either.
I suppose I want something that would tell people "it's a Bomberman in Starcraft" without using Bomber in name. Some sort of reference to the well-known.
The best I can think of right now is permutations between existing name and DynaBlaster (Though that reference would be lost to everyone but folks in Europe, nonetheless it's still cool). DynaBots? BlasterBots? Simply "Blasters"?
Or maybe an unrelated name, but it has to have a character, need to sound right.
Heh, I think I care about the name a little bit more than I imagined =P
Yes, we all know that bomberman is pretty much a primer for solutions in world politics today =D
Anyway, in order to get featured I'll need to change maps name because right now it overlaps with existing bomberman IP a little bit too much. Since I'm kinda terrible at naming I'd love to hear any suggestions (except "BombCraft" and "Dyna" :D), so please, don't be shy, step up and speak the silliest of ideas you have.
..I wonder if BlasterBots would also be prohibited xD
Well it's hidden pretty well, disguised to discourage new player from becoming observers and leaving of boredom (though in full games there is always someone who finds it anyway).
In the bottom of menu/lobby there is an observer icon. If you click on it you'll be moved out of player slots and appear as a big eye next to that icon. In observer mode you can click on bomber to view their current equipment.
Also it's useful to know that there are 2 bugs in bomber which I was unable to solve:
1) Game can crash when bomber dies. Extremely rare and happens for no apparent reason (happened to me 2-3 times out of 100 games).
2) Ghost block - an empty square that won't allow you to plant bomb on in and will block all thrown bombs passing through it (happened to me 4-5 times out of 100 games).
I feel uneasy about keyboard support because of b-net delay when dealing with keypresses. But 80% of reviews are asking for it, so if anything I'll at least try to make it work. There is also a number little additions and bugfixes that must be done, better sooner than later, but I honestly don't feel like mapping for at least few more weeks.
P.S. It's been an awesome week, top rated map on the arcade and for a few days it was even more played than marine arena (yay husky fans!), and popularity on EU went from average 10h to 190h (wtf?). Had a number of awesome games myself, so big thanks to everyone! *happy*.
@kuvasz88: Go
Thanks for the notice. I'm mostly playing Heaven Besieged on NA nowadays, or mapping, or doing other things..
As for the issue... map crashes make me a sad duck ;/
The only hint I've had was "it's probably custom models". Thus it's probably imported stuff. So what I'm gonna do is: first - replace custom models (wow dodads for ice and jungle stages) with hots stuff. Then, if it still crashes - revert ground textures to original, which will look lousy but still better than constantly crashing.
Here's the theory:
I'll try to push 1st fix by the end of the week. Sadly I don't think there is a reliable way to test if it works or not, so if after update game continues to crash let me know and I'll initiate second fix phase.
Edit: I really really want to believe that it's imported ground textures that are at fault. So first I'll upload version which doesn't have them + is upped to HOTS. We'll go from there instead.
Edit2: Ok, uploaded updated version. If you decide to play it and it crashes, please let me know. I'll be removing imported stuff one by one until fatal error stops.
@zenx1: Go
Yeah, it went pretty much like this:
Them: give us some art for feature.
Me: I don't think I have anything feature worth.
Them: just give us your loading screen, we'll do something about it
Me: okay.
...
Them: use this instead >.>
And the name.. well.. let's not talk about that :D
@kuvasz88: Go
:D
thanks.
Looking back, it's funny how things turned out so well. I started making bomberbot because I wanted to play with other people, and purchasing console for one game was improbable for me, especially when it looked like it was dying on consoles as well. And now, you can check this out for free without the need to purchase sc2 (horray for starters edition).
I initially wanted to this to be the same as other bomberman games, except on sc2, but things like b-net key detect delay, and troubles making no-collision bomber happened. I can probably recreate collision-less bomber, but by now I came to appreciate choices and tactics that this change provides, would be a shame to take them away.
So in the end, this turned out to be a little bit different from standard, probably for the better.
But, there are more things to be explored, probably some time after I beat hots campaign I'll come back and start experimenting around idea of 1-2 player PvE campaign, like in original bomberman, but where it doesn't get boring after you've got all the powerups (something that was planned initially but then dropped).
Oh fun times. We'll see how it goes. For now, thanks again to everyone who played, <3 all of you.
As always, looking for more challengers, anyone wants to play? :D
@kuvasz88: Go
I'm glad it all turned well. It's also awesome that you've got betas for rewards, I bet the prize made it even more exciting for players. Well done!
@kuvasz88: Go
I saw a part of it, you've made them play multiple games of 10 win sets, you monster =D
@Ahli634: Go
Thanks Ahli, but yeah, those I have. What I meant was these pictures without "Bomberbot" on them, since I'll need to replace it with "Blasterbots". I discovered my test folder with multiple variations and text displacements, but original, clean images are nomewhere to be found, most likely lost them in last hdd format :/
I'll probably be able replace name on loading screen, but not sure on what can be done with arcade thumbnail. I think I'll screenshot some explosions and then will try to paste new one on top of words. We'll see how it'll turn out.
You have what? I want to check it, again :P
It doesn't affect anything, I'll just upload map by different name, no changes since I'm working on something else atm. And I'll probably do so during weekends, because I'm having hard times finding default pictures I used for arcade thumbnail/Loading screen. If it comes to worst I'll need to remake them. Hopefully I have a backup on one of my usbs, otherwise T_T.
@kuvasz88: Go
What is even bigger shame is that I'm having such troubles deciding name. Right now I'm looking at arcade thumbnail icon, feels like blasterbots is the only name that even remotely suits that picture. So there, it's done =D
>
Asks for advice>
Ignores thread for two weeks.So sorry, been kinda absorbed by other things lately. Things on my mind: "BlasterBots", "Robot War", "BattleBots".
BlasterBots is a rip-off from "Dyna Blaster", so I'm torn between between other two. The choices, so hard >.< halp!
Changing letters eh? BumberBut it is then =D
@Hookah604: Go
The Horror! The horror..
@Trieva: Go
@CrazyTwigman: Go
Thanks. I feel that everything except bombs and bots would fit better a flash game than sc2 map =(
But Bombs&Bots doesn't feel like a right choice either.
I suppose I want something that would tell people "it's a Bomberman in Starcraft" without using Bomber in name. Some sort of reference to the well-known.
The best I can think of right now is permutations between existing name and DynaBlaster (Though that reference would be lost to everyone but folks in Europe, nonetheless it's still cool). DynaBots? BlasterBots? Simply "Blasters"?
Or maybe an unrelated name, but it has to have a character, need to sound right.
Heh, I think I care about the name a little bit more than I imagined =P
@Hookah604: Go
Yes, we all know that bomberman is pretty much a primer for solutions in world politics today =D
Anyway, in order to get featured I'll need to change maps name because right now it overlaps with existing bomberman IP a little bit too much. Since I'm kinda terrible at naming I'd love to hear any suggestions (except "BombCraft" and "Dyna"
:D
), so please, don't be shy, step up and speak the silliest of ideas you have...I wonder if BlasterBots would also be prohibited xD
@kuvasz88: Go
Well it's hidden pretty well, disguised to discourage new player from becoming observers and leaving of boredom (though in full games there is always someone who finds it anyway).
@kuvasz88: Go
In the bottom of menu/lobby there is an observer icon. If you click on it you'll be moved out of player slots and appear as a big eye next to that icon. In observer mode you can click on bomber to view their current equipment.
Also it's useful to know that there are 2 bugs in bomber which I was unable to solve:
1) Game can crash when bomber dies. Extremely rare and happens for no apparent reason (happened to me 2-3 times out of 100 games).
2) Ghost block - an empty square that won't allow you to plant bomb on in and will block all thrown bombs passing through it (happened to me 4-5 times out of 100 games).
@kuvasz88: Go
Good, I hope to play with you again, soon >:D
I wasn't home when servers went up, but now everything is as it should be ^.^
@darawe: Go
Awesome, more gameplay videos :D
I feel uneasy about keyboard support because of b-net delay when dealing with keypresses. But 80% of reviews are asking for it, so if anything I'll at least try to make it work. There is also a number little additions and bugfixes that must be done, better sooner than later, but I honestly don't feel like mapping for at least few more weeks.
P.S. It's been an awesome week, top rated map on the arcade and for a few days it was even more played than marine arena (yay husky fans!), and popularity on EU went from average 10h to 190h (wtf?). Had a number of awesome games myself, so big thanks to everyone! *happy*.
Edit: added videos to the bottom of OP.