So basically, the problem is that everyone wants to have their own community "be the best" and they do not want to "lose" to Mapster. The fact of the matter is, you go to Mapster forums, wiki, and IRC for everything. And the only reason not to is because you want your own website for whatever reason. I just phale to see why there needs to be 4 tiny mapping communities as well as Mapster after what you just said, Jack.
Besides, you're already here.
No, I want every community to be its own community. And I no longer go to mapster for everything; the most useful thing on mapster for me now is the news feed :P GWN, SEN, udmod, and google answers everything else I need, or my own knowledge.
SEN, udmod, and hive are not tiny. Between them all there's something like 55000 members. Maybe they don't all map in SCII but I'd say there's still a good 250-300 decent-skilled mappers in those communities, not including newbs. In the relatively small starcraft 2 mapping community, this is not an insignificant number.
But oh yeah, I'm not here to say my epeen > your epeen ;o
Anyway, I guess that's a no for now from mapster. No worries, and no need to discuss this farther methinks.
Just saying .... your guy's wiki has everything colored white.
where as ours has this god awful orange in between the white text. But it grows on ya.
But seriously anybody who is looking for good sc2 editor info should be heading over here to search the forums.
The wiki is a nice reference but the amount of good information in the forums here is truly a valued resource.
The IRC channel is also extremely useful. I would suggest you guys link to the SC2mapster IRC channel if you are truly trying to improve the SC2 modding community.
No offence, but as devlin has already said, we don't want to go to mapster for everything. And we're not the only ones; the smaller sites and non-mapster sites generally stay alive because quite simply, they don't want to go to mapster. And you don't wantto go to them, and that's fine. GWN is supposed to remedy the fragmentation of the SCII mapping sites, and just saying GO TO MAPSTER FORUMS WIKI AND IRCFOR EVERYTHING OLOL is not helping that fragmentation at all.
Duplication as in the same subjects being covered. As far as I know there's just that one article that's actually a direct duplication.
I wasn't trying to sound like GWN is the top SCII site. Even though it isn't, that isn't a reason for mapster to join it. It isn't competing with any of the communities, it merely provides an intercommunity knowledge base. I feel that mapster could benefit from it, and that GWN could benefit from mapster, so it's a winwin situation.
What do you mean by unitified format? All the pages would be on www.galaxywiki.net with the mediawiki format, ifthat's what you mean.
I can't find the article that was a direct copy paste, it was a month ago so maybe it's been replaced with original content.
I think the quality of GWN is in general as good as mapster's article quality ;0 and it wouldn't be practical for all these sites to link to mapster. See, there's the same problem: you want to have everyone go to mapster for SCII, as does every other SCII mapping site. The idea behind GWN is to unify people instead of having 6 or 8 different sites all trying to beat each other at the same thing. You keep your community, but get the knowledgebase of all the communities.
There's some great work being done with mapster's wiki, but there's a lot of duplication with it and GalaxyWiki.Net. In fact, I saw at least one article here that was a direct copy/paste of a GWN (galaxywiki.net) article :P Basically, I'd like to offer mapster the chance to become part of GWN. Instead of having two or more wikis and knowledge bases to draw from, we could all work together on ONE wiki, which isn't affiliated with any one particular site.
The basic idea of GWN is just that: to have one knowledgebase that many sites add to. Currently, udmod, sc2mod, and staredit.net are part of the network, with hiveworkshop most likely going to join in the near future. If mapster, sc2c, and thehelper also joined, then there'd be one knowledge base for the entire StarCraft II community, instead of the current splitting.
Whaddaya think, would you want to become a part of this or not? If not that's fine, but it'd be great for the Starcraft II community if you joined with GWN.
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No, I want every community to be its own community. And I no longer go to mapster for everything; the most useful thing on mapster for me now is the news feed :P GWN, SEN, udmod, and google answers everything else I need, or my own knowledge.
SEN, udmod, and hive are not tiny. Between them all there's something like 55000 members. Maybe they don't all map in SCII but I'd say there's still a good 250-300 decent-skilled mappers in those communities, not including newbs. In the relatively small starcraft 2 mapping community, this is not an insignificant number.
But oh yeah, I'm not here to say my epeen > your epeen ;o
Anyway, I guess that's a no for now from mapster. No worries, and no need to discuss this farther methinks.
No offence, but as devlin has already said, we don't want to go to mapster for everything. And we're not the only ones; the smaller sites and non-mapster sites generally stay alive because quite simply, they don't want to go to mapster. And you don't wantto go to them, and that's fine. GWN is supposed to remedy the fragmentation of the SCII mapping sites, and just saying GO TO MAPSTER FORUMS WIKI AND IRCFOR EVERYTHING OLOL is not helping that fragmentation at all.
Duplication as in the same subjects being covered. As far as I know there's just that one article that's actually a direct duplication.
I wasn't trying to sound like GWN is the top SCII site. Even though it isn't, that isn't a reason for mapster to join it. It isn't competing with any of the communities, it merely provides an intercommunity knowledge base. I feel that mapster could benefit from it, and that GWN could benefit from mapster, so it's a winwin situation.
What do you mean by unitified format? All the pages would be on www.galaxywiki.net with the mediawiki format, ifthat's what you mean. I can't find the article that was a direct copy paste, it was a month ago so maybe it's been replaced with original content.
I think the quality of GWN is in general as good as mapster's article quality ;0 and it wouldn't be practical for all these sites to link to mapster. See, there's the same problem: you want to have everyone go to mapster for SCII, as does every other SCII mapping site. The idea behind GWN is to unify people instead of having 6 or 8 different sites all trying to beat each other at the same thing. You keep your community, but get the knowledgebase of all the communities.
Offtopic: are you Dr Supergood from hive?
EDIT Here is the article http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/map/map-properties/loading-screen/ copied from http://www.galaxywiki.net/index.php?title=Map_Loading_Screen There may be more, I haven't seen all of mapster's articles.
Hey guys,
There's some great work being done with mapster's wiki, but there's a lot of duplication with it and GalaxyWiki.Net. In fact, I saw at least one article here that was a direct copy/paste of a GWN (galaxywiki.net) article :P Basically, I'd like to offer mapster the chance to become part of GWN. Instead of having two or more wikis and knowledge bases to draw from, we could all work together on ONE wiki, which isn't affiliated with any one particular site.
The basic idea of GWN is just that: to have one knowledgebase that many sites add to. Currently, udmod, sc2mod, and staredit.net are part of the network, with hiveworkshop most likely going to join in the near future. If mapster, sc2c, and thehelper also joined, then there'd be one knowledge base for the entire StarCraft II community, instead of the current splitting.
Whaddaya think, would you want to become a part of this or not? If not that's fine, but it'd be great for the Starcraft II community if you joined with GWN.