What you consider stupid is kind of irrelevant, don'tchya think? I don't exactly conduct myself according to what other people find appropriate, just what I find appropriate. And I find defending such a broken system to be stupid, not to be arguing against it.
Your a very stupid person you know. Is that irrelevant too? Leave the thread and let it die!
You want longer games, I understand. But a lot of people don't have time for those long games. This is why there is the create as a party option, just find a group of people that like the longer games instead of shorter ones. A lot of people, unlike us modders/gamers don't have millions of hours to spend on the computer. I'm not saying this as an insult either, I play tons of games at a competitive level I am also getting into the modding style so I spend tons of hours on here.
But for now while blizzard is working on the situation this is what we have to work with. It's a nice system too, it has a couple flaws and needs more features but the general idea is really nice.
If maps HAVE to be short, and HAVE to be so simple a toddler can understand them, that's my definition of shitty. Sure, minor mini-games here and there are fun, I played them back in WC3. But when -EVERY- map -HAS- to be a mini-game, it becomes shitty. So yeah, the only way to get your maps played on this system is to make them shitty 5 minute long games with absolutely no depth or any sort of decent or unique gameplay - I.E. Shit.
You can make a simple map not shitty. Eiviyn did it. So did many others. Basically what your saying is the world is shitty. Todays society no one wants to take effort to read instructions. If you want popularity make something simple and unique. Something can be simple and be really good. You don't really have any valid points to argue. heh. Again this isn't WC3 this is SC2. 5-6 years after WC3. The editor is more advanced and are heads are not in the WC3 editor like yourself.
It doesn't all have to be minigames. Just unique and simple to understand maps.
When your best advice is "make shitty, dumbed down maps that toddlers can play", then yeah... I'd quit too. Why waste your time doing something you don't enjoy, making maps you don't want to simply cuz they're the ONLY kind that'll ever get played. Back on WC3 it was the short maps like tug maps that rarely got played, and the long polished maps that were played all the time. Seriously, he has no obligation to tough it out while Blizzard waits for ANOTHER ten months before they fix the system, and you people need to wrap your head around this. The kinds of maps he enjoys making are too long and complex for this system, so his options are to quit, or make stupid 5 minute long maps. He chose to quit. Now if every other map maker would take a stand instead of bending over, begging for Blizzard to screw them some more, maybe Blizzard would be more inclined to fix their shit.
My advice isn't make shitty, dumbed down maps. Think outside the box bro. Just make simple easy to understand map. I mean it can be an all out crazy idea, but needs to have simple ways to play it. Not everyone reads the loading screen. This isn't WC3, this is SC2. No he doesen't have an obligation, but he does have a choice whether his map gets played or not, but he doesn't want to work for it. If it was my creation, I'd bump the heck out of it.
It's not necessarily the system that isn't always the problem. Its the people too, they don't want to work for it.
I really dont care that he chose to quit, thats his choice. But he also had a choice for his maps to get played. And aren't you the kid that doesn't have SC2 because of a popularity system? lul.
I understand where Bounty's coming from. Yeah it's pretty frustrating, but do you really need to blow your top? It's not like your making some map for a huge company that's going to pay you by the hour and give you tons of fame. It's just a hobby for people. And I really can't believe you just ignored half the peoples advice on here.
Look at it this way: Nexus wars is really balanced. The guy took a regular Tug-Of-War and made it pretty cool actually. It still gets boring fast, but if you want to play a quick UMS on the fly before you have to go to work or school thats it. Longer games usually happen with a organized team. ANYWAY to my point: If you made a simple map everyone can understand you'd probably do a lot better.
Eiv got page 1 because her map was Simple and Easy to understand, Nexus wars got page 1 because it was simple and easy to understand. Same with Battlecraft, SotIs and so on. They all are simple maps. The community obviously likes simple maps so instead of making an awesome, simple map you make a crazy hard to understand map that will need some explaining beforehand.
A lot of your maps failed. I told you TPS was a turnoff. You never listened. Its your own fault bro.
(This is Nova if you didnt know. ><)
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Your a very stupid person you know. Is that irrelevant too? Leave the thread and let it die!
@s3rius: Go
You want longer games, I understand. But a lot of people don't have time for those long games. This is why there is the create as a party option, just find a group of people that like the longer games instead of shorter ones. A lot of people, unlike us modders/gamers don't have millions of hours to spend on the computer. I'm not saying this as an insult either, I play tons of games at a competitive level I am also getting into the modding style so I spend tons of hours on here.
But for now while blizzard is working on the situation this is what we have to work with. It's a nice system too, it has a couple flaws and needs more features but the general idea is really nice.
You can make a simple map not shitty. Eiviyn did it. So did many others. Basically what your saying is the world is shitty. Todays society no one wants to take effort to read instructions. If you want popularity make something simple and unique. Something can be simple and be really good. You don't really have any valid points to argue. heh. Again this isn't WC3 this is SC2. 5-6 years after WC3. The editor is more advanced and are heads are not in the WC3 editor like yourself.
It doesn't all have to be minigames. Just unique and simple to understand maps.
My advice isn't make shitty, dumbed down maps. Think outside the box bro. Just make simple easy to understand map. I mean it can be an all out crazy idea, but needs to have simple ways to play it. Not everyone reads the loading screen. This isn't WC3, this is SC2. No he doesen't have an obligation, but he does have a choice whether his map gets played or not, but he doesn't want to work for it. If it was my creation, I'd bump the heck out of it. It's not necessarily the system that isn't always the problem. Its the people too, they don't want to work for it.
I really dont care that he chose to quit, thats his choice. But he also had a choice for his maps to get played. And aren't you the kid that doesn't have SC2 because of a popularity system? lul.
@Bounty_98: Go
I understand where Bounty's coming from. Yeah it's pretty frustrating, but do you really need to blow your top? It's not like your making some map for a huge company that's going to pay you by the hour and give you tons of fame. It's just a hobby for people. And I really can't believe you just ignored half the peoples advice on here.
Look at it this way: Nexus wars is really balanced. The guy took a regular Tug-Of-War and made it pretty cool actually. It still gets boring fast, but if you want to play a quick UMS on the fly before you have to go to work or school thats it. Longer games usually happen with a organized team. ANYWAY to my point: If you made a simple map everyone can understand you'd probably do a lot better.
Eiv got page 1 because her map was Simple and Easy to understand, Nexus wars got page 1 because it was simple and easy to understand. Same with Battlecraft, SotIs and so on. They all are simple maps. The community obviously likes simple maps so instead of making an awesome, simple map you make a crazy hard to understand map that will need some explaining beforehand.
A lot of your maps failed. I told you TPS was a turnoff. You never listened. Its your own fault bro.
(This is Nova if you didnt know. ><)