SC2Mapster

Hi all,

I'm fairly new to the SC2 editor, and I'm a little overwhelmed, I'm used to the SC1 editors. I have been going over various tutorials to great success, but I have hit a snag. I am building a map with various heroes, and I am building their abilities right now. I have several I'm a little uncertain on, but my current issues lies in making certain abilities upgrade-able, like the zealot's charge. My goal is to have 3 tiers to charge, each adding a longer range and faster movement, less cooldown, etc. Normally I would just add multiple effects, but unfortunately, abilities like charge and blink, do not have the effects+ ability and can only have 1 tier. How would I go about making multiple levels of this? Either by recreating them as a different type, or by somehow making a dummy ability?

Thanks, sharf.

You could run the abilities through a Learn ability which permits the levelling of abilities.

I already have them in a learn ability. The problem is that most abilities, like effect - instant and effect - target, have an effects+ field, which let's you define multiple effects, that the learn ability uses for levels. Augment abilities only have an effect field (no +) so I cannot dfine more than 1 effect, preventing me from adding levels to that ability, I need a way around that.

I did this a long time ago with a workaround. There might be an easier way now, but this old way still works. Basically, you create a different Augment ability for each level, and add each one to the Learn ability. On the command card, you will need a button for every level of the ability, stacked one on top of the other, for example with level 3 being the highest and lvl 1 being the lowest. That way level 3 shows on top of level 1 if it is available. Likewise, on the learn command card, you put a separate button for learning each level of the ability. Using Requirements set on each Learn command in the Learn ability, you set it so that learn level 2 only appears if level 1 has been learned and level 2 has not been learned, e.g.:

CountAbil(LEVELONE,CompleteOnly) && !CountAbil(LEVELTWO,CompleteOnly)

And so on.

The problem is that if the ability is autocast, its autocast state is lost every time you learn a new level. There should be a workaround with triggers or something, but I havent had time to look into it.

I tried that and couldn't get it to work (because I put the higher level buttons underneath the lower level ones, so I just need to fix that). The issue I did have though, is that since both are learned (and set to autocast by default) they both trigger seperately...which is a problem, so how would I disable the lower level one? use a requirement under the use ability to only work if a higher level doesn't exist?

I appreciate the help, and your demos will probably be useful, but I'm not quite sure how they work, or help me. Without a guide or tutorial I don't really understand how to use what is in those maps.

Well, I got it working (using the dated method I assume) where requirements turn them on or off. That works, except the number (level) of the ability on the skills command card remains as 1 despite all the levels. I've been looking through the choosable attributes and I don't see how I can apply that to my situation (the augment ability). In addition, I've been trying to recruit the ability as an effect - target using a set effect to apply the buff and issue an attack command but I can't quite get that to work. Could you maybe explain a little more on how to implement the dummy system? What I THINK I need to do, is use a dummy ability that levels up, but really applies the charge ability depending on the level of the dummy. I don't know how to make that happen though.

Thanks, sharf.

Alright I think I have it...I'll give it a shot and get back to you.

Thanks, sharf

That did it! I finally understand what you were getting at now.

Thanks, sharf.