No, writing was invented multiple times by different peoples, as your own bit on Stonehenge demonstrates. This means things aren't as linear as you suppose. It's the same principle as with America being discovered long before Christopher Columbus (Vikings and talk of Egyptians even), or how about the ancient Greeks knowing that the world was round! I could go on.
It's understandable that you misinterpret my position; this whole argument was tangential from the start because I had to decipher your position with nothing but a cryptic one-liner nitpick about writing and 4000 BC like I'm freaking Sherlock Holmes. And you accuse me of wasting your time! Though admittedly, I had it coming by telling you to clap your trap flap.
My original point stands, and that is it's stupid to go back a million years before we figure out 1,000 BC to 10,000 BC and beyond.
What a shitty cheap shot. Actually I'm well within your 2 simple thing. Less hubris if you would, perhaps enough to consider that an advanced civilization isn't going to use rock and chisel in the first place, but degradable paper. So the lack of writings in a 9,000 year old city can go both ways.
EDIT: It's totally what you were saying, or else tell me the point in changing my 10,000 BC to your 4,000 BC
What you're saying is let's forget about anything before 4,000 BC because written language is our only chance of ever knowing the course of human events.
So explain how this doesn't give us all the more reason to withhold our presumptions, and why we should even give a modicum of serious thought to where we were a million years ago. We go but a fraction of the way and already there's a huge disconnect. The prevailing theory then is totally baseless outside that "it would explain a whole lot." I can come up with theories that "explain a whole lot" too. It's not hard.
"Debris recovered from the site - including construction material, pottery, sections of walls, beads, sculpture and human bones and teeth has been carbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old."
"It is believed that the area was submerged as ice caps melted at the end of the last ice age 9-10,000 years ago."
How about we draw a line from present to past instead of past to present, and nail down that enormous block of history from 1000 BC to 10,000 BC and beyond that's by and large a total mystery, before we attribute the unprecedented physiological differences of the human mammal to the "of course"-ness of hum-drum scientism.
If Occam's Razor was the miracle knife everyone thinks it is then the planets would be perfect spheres as the Greeks supposed.
Y'know I was inclined to finally cash in my credibility chips and bank it all on the validity of Dec. 21st (having eschewed the hysteria of Y2K and others) but Alex Jones said something pretty poignant on the topic, and that is how smart can a society of human sacrificers really be?
My only concern is it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You posed a strange question though. What would a Bizarro-Me who subscribed to 2012 do? I guess he/I would take his/my anti-nanocopter over to Pluto's Hydra moon for one last space ant safari.
If that's the case, I'm pretty sure "Defense of the Ancients" is copyrighted to Eul...unless the legal system decides that Blizzard's EULA or Valve's flipitifloppitifloo supercedes the U.S. Constitution. Which wouldn't fucking surprise me one bit I tell you that.
I just gotta say, it's the modern features of matchmaking, stat tracking, rejoin, et al that just barely excuse this utterly shameless derivative work.
At least they had the decency to bring Eul aboard the gravy train (or so I heard). Even though with two botched sequels he has yet to prove that he's anything beyond a flash in the pan, I still remember the fun I had with his teleporting healer hero back in ROC DOTA before Guinsoo shit-canned them all.
So what happened during HotS development that LotV now needs this? It doesn't bode well for a timely release, that's for sure!
On the other hand, I also noticed a UI artist for Blizzard All-Stars. Is the project so in-depth that it requires this level of commitment? Sounds promising to me.
From wikipedia: "After Disney's death, The Walt Disney Company decided that it did not want to be in the business of running a city without Walt's guidance."
Makes sense but calling it EPCOT regardless was a dick move when it's no longer an EXPERIMENTAL PROTOTYPE COMMUNITY OF TOMORROW. Call it something else assholes.
Thank you guys. I got an answer, although it sucks.
It seems that no matter how further we go here, we will all in the end
reach the same answer:
"It's important because we were programmed to do so."
It is how our brain was developed. And even if we assume we have a soul,
the answer would be the same: "It was programmed to do so." In the end,
it comes down to laws of nature. I guess we are robots. And even if we
have souls, our souls are just robots following unknown laws of physics.
I hope I'm wrong because it sucks to be a robot.
6:45am and this existential anxiety doesn't let me sleep.
It's up to you whether you're a robot or not. Only a robot will tell you otherwise.
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@Hookah604: Go
No, writing was invented multiple times by different peoples, as your own bit on Stonehenge demonstrates. This means things aren't as linear as you suppose. It's the same principle as with America being discovered long before Christopher Columbus (Vikings and talk of Egyptians even), or how about the ancient Greeks knowing that the world was round! I could go on.
It's understandable that you misinterpret my position; this whole argument was tangential from the start because I had to decipher your position with nothing but a cryptic one-liner nitpick about writing and 4000 BC like I'm freaking Sherlock Holmes. And you accuse me of wasting your time! Though admittedly, I had it coming by telling you to clap your trap flap.
My original point stands, and that is it's stupid to go back a million years before we figure out 1,000 BC to 10,000 BC and beyond.
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@Hookah604: Go
What a shitty cheap shot. Actually I'm well within your 2 simple thing. Less hubris if you would, perhaps enough to consider that an advanced civilization isn't going to use rock and chisel in the first place, but degradable paper. So the lack of writings in a 9,000 year old city can go both ways.
EDIT: It's totally what you were saying, or else tell me the point in changing my 10,000 BC to your 4,000 BC
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What you're saying is let's forget about anything before 4,000 BC because written language is our only chance of ever knowing the course of human events.
So explain how this doesn't give us all the more reason to withhold our presumptions, and why we should even give a modicum of serious thought to where we were a million years ago. We go but a fraction of the way and already there's a huge disconnect. The prevailing theory then is totally baseless outside that "it would explain a whole lot." I can come up with theories that "explain a whole lot" too. It's not hard.
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@Hookah604: Go
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1768109.stm
"Debris recovered from the site - including construction material, pottery, sections of walls, beads, sculpture and human bones and teeth has been carbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old."
"It is believed that the area was submerged as ice caps melted at the end of the last ice age 9-10,000 years ago."
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How about we draw a line from present to past instead of past to present, and nail down that enormous block of history from 1000 BC to 10,000 BC and beyond that's by and large a total mystery, before we attribute the unprecedented physiological differences of the human mammal to the "of course"-ness of hum-drum scientism.
If Occam's Razor was the miracle knife everyone thinks it is then the planets would be perfect spheres as the Greeks supposed.
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Keep flapping your clap trap you hatin lovin Benedict Arnold, you wouldn't be laughing if you knew who the woman was and her credentials.
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Y'know I was inclined to finally cash in my credibility chips and bank it all on the validity of Dec. 21st (having eschewed the hysteria of Y2K and others) but Alex Jones said something pretty poignant on the topic, and that is how smart can a society of human sacrificers really be?
My only concern is it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You posed a strange question though. What would a Bizarro-Me who subscribed to 2012 do? I guess he/I would take his/my anti-nanocopter over to Pluto's Hydra moon for one last space ant safari.
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@DogmaiSEA: Go
If that's the case, I'm pretty sure "Defense of the Ancients" is copyrighted to Eul...unless the legal system decides that Blizzard's EULA or Valve's flipitifloppitifloo supercedes the U.S. Constitution. Which wouldn't fucking surprise me one bit I tell you that.
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I just gotta say, it's the modern features of matchmaking, stat tracking, rejoin, et al that just barely excuse this utterly shameless derivative work.
At least they had the decency to bring Eul aboard the gravy train (or so I heard). Even though with two botched sequels he has yet to prove that he's anything beyond a flash in the pan, I still remember the fun I had with his teleporting healer hero back in ROC DOTA before Guinsoo shit-canned them all.
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There's a near-identical job listing for StarCraft II for Lead Game Designer:
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=4400357
So what happened during HotS development that LotV now needs this? It doesn't bode well for a timely release, that's for sure!
On the other hand, I also noticed a UI artist for Blizzard All-Stars. Is the project so in-depth that it requires this level of commitment? Sounds promising to me.
EDIT: Cleaned up the link.
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Walt Disney's Original Plan for EPCOT:
From wikipedia: "After Disney's death, The Walt Disney Company decided that it did not want to be in the business of running a city without Walt's guidance."
Makes sense but calling it EPCOT regardless was a dick move when it's no longer an EXPERIMENTAL PROTOTYPE COMMUNITY OF TOMORROW. Call it something else assholes.
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Did you actualize yourself? Gratitude is the elusive feeling you describe, gratitude to the actualizer to which you owe your authentic existence.
It's up to you whether you're a robot or not. Only a robot will tell you otherwise.
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@RodrigoAlves: Go
Happiness is fleeting. Joy is everlasting.
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Let It Be by The Beatles is repetitive and uninteresting.
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Finger Eleven's Paralyzer is the most shameless, blatant, shitty ripoff of Franz Ferdinand's Take Me Out.
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Directed Energy Technology: