Speaking of new editors, noticed this one out there. Nothing close to Galaxy, but the fact its all based off Trials which is a dirtbike side-scroller is pretty impressive.
As neat as it looks, hugely limited by the fact its on Xbox, so no importing new assets.
This was a very deep and thoughtful review evoking much emotion and fondness, such that I have not felt in ages. I laughed. I cried... In the end, I recommended this review to my friends. 5/5.
I play LoL and I'm not that good at it, so I want to learn how to play. But not by reading so I don't think I'll like it that much.
Sadly LoL is like Starcraft... simply playing it more will not likely make you better. Watching strats, professional vids and having talented friends and combining these things with abundant play is the best method to learn any game really.
This site looks interesting, but it doesn't bring anything new to the table that Solomid/mobafire lack. So I won't be using it.
I played the demo. Almost all the dialog bugged out and there was surprisingly little to do when you kill all the questgivers. ;P
That aside, I really enjoyed the game. The demo was quite long, and combat and story and chat were quite interesting, but despite that I still feel I may need to see more before I'm willing to drop $65 on it. It has definitely been added to my "Buy when on-sale" list.
At this point anyone not seriously loving SC2 probably already has, so D3 won't change that. I know, of my twenty or so real life friends who bought SC2, none played Starcraft longer than 4 months before moving on.
Even though EternalWraith comes on like a crazed fanatic, this thread requires a devil's advocate. This can't be a one-sided discussion. There ARE a large number of good features in Bnet 2. As he said, he is going to post his ideas on what this is at a future date, so I'm interested in seeing his thoughts.
As for my own thoughts. I do prefer many of the features from Bnet 1 over Bnet 2. At the same time, this video also made me realize that War3 has been seen through a rosy lens of nostalgia, I feel the old Custom map system was terrible also and would be unhappy if they reverted it to this and left it at that. It has 2 positive features (showing active map lobbies and promoting new maps), but for long term popularity I feel it would be plagued with the same repeated maps as the front page of the SC2 page and I believe Blizzard is well on it's way to developing a better system. The problem? The game is 2 years old and everyone who bought it has quit or plays ladder exclusively. This new 'arcade' and purchaseable maps will require a complete shift in Blizzards stance on the custom scene if it's gonna fix anything.
Blizzard has ignored custom maps to the extent that a majority of players playing the game have zero interest in custom maps (99%). A single melee map probably sees a hundred-thousand times more play than the most popular custom map. Blizzard needs to PROMOTE the custom map system, they need to realize that the maps they have created are terrible and that only through driving community initiative, partnering with great community maps and helping spread word, will people be interested in trying this new system they brewed up for HOTS. They need to INCLUDE major mapmakers and mapmaking sites (cough cough mapster), not tell us "I know we never communicate with you, and our attempts at mapmaking have failed in our own system, but this time we're totally on it, so without consulting the custom community about a custom tool or acknowledging it's existance, we're just going to surprise you!" Without an active participation in the community, this fancy new system will fall on it's face when it still only captures the attention of 1% of players.
They need to do spotlights of maps daily, they need to promote popular maps and host tournaments,ladders,etc (we already know you can make these systems automated). They need to make Melee'ers want to try custom maps and nonplayers to try SC and try it's custom maps free. By limiting the trial to poorly received Blizzard-made maps you are just turning them off. They need to value the custom experience as being 50% of the force behind driving game longevity. I'm no expert but it seems like the map forum is unmoderated, the custom map development team is incapable, and whoever is in charge of the editor and custom games is either inept, overworked or powerless(probably this). I mean: i feel that the editor has the detail and features that somewhere in Irvine there are a large number of people who put their time and very heart into making it, they must be as disappointed as us at it's failure. But is this entire division of the game just horribly understaffed and ignored? I mean, the facebook page seems to have more activity and a larger team than a game-component that could attract thousands, if not millions of new players.
Current "attempts" at Featured maps are such a passive route to map promotion it's not even funny. I feel like map designers are all running around with scissors in a dark room and every month or two blizzard throws in a flashlight with dead batteries, yells "we care" and leaves for another few months. Additionally, if they hope Blizzard DOTA and the Arcade will revive custom maps by just throwing it in the mix and forgetting it, they are putting all their eggs in one deformed basket as they have failed in all previous attempts at creating a fun popular map and a popularity system.
/rant
TL:DR Biggest issue with custom maps is Blizzard's complete disregard and lack of communication with the mapmaking community. In other words: this post is way off topic.
Zenx makes some very good realistic propositions, Taintedwisp's, although cool, are simply unrealistic and will almost all never happen.
Personally my hopes are:
-Ability to use expansion features in WoL editor. ( Don't want to buy an expansion JUST for the UI editor, fixes, etc)
-Ability to retrieve Battlenet Time/date from server via triggers
-More flexibility in Catalog Set trigger.
-Higher map limit (than 20, even if 100mb limit isn't increased)
-Serverside banks
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Speaking of new editors, noticed this one out there. Nothing close to Galaxy, but the fact its all based off Trials which is a dirtbike side-scroller is pretty impressive.
As neat as it looks, hugely limited by the fact its on Xbox, so no importing new assets.
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This was a very deep and thoughtful review evoking much emotion and fondness, such that I have not felt in ages. I laughed. I cried... In the end, I recommended this review to my friends. 5/5.
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Sadly LoL is like Starcraft... simply playing it more will not likely make you better. Watching strats, professional vids and having talented friends and combining these things with abundant play is the best method to learn any game really.
This site looks interesting, but it doesn't bring anything new to the table that Solomid/mobafire lack. So I won't be using it.
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I played the demo. Almost all the dialog bugged out and there was surprisingly little to do when you kill all the questgivers. ;P
That aside, I really enjoyed the game. The demo was quite long, and combat and story and chat were quite interesting, but despite that I still feel I may need to see more before I'm willing to drop $65 on it. It has definitely been added to my "Buy when on-sale" list.
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For some reason whenever I see a crazy person with a crazy idea throw around "we"... this video comes to mind.
COME ON EVERYBODY!!!
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I like the stadium and entrance screens a lot, very cool looking. The other two seem really plain by contrast.
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I bought the Ultimate Assassin's pack of the first 3 games for teh Xbox.. lemme know how they are.
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At this point anyone not seriously loving SC2 probably already has, so D3 won't change that. I know, of my twenty or so real life friends who bought SC2, none played Starcraft longer than 4 months before moving on.
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The same people posting again and again.
I rate your avatar and this thread:
a circle jerk/ 10
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Are the movie rights for this story taken already? I see screenplay material here.
EDIT:
cue dramatic music
Fade from black
"One man... "
"Two loves... "
"One copy. WHO WILL LIVE? WHO WILL DIE?"
"Will a man be forced to give up everything he believes in for the woman he loves!?"
"HOW FAR WOULD YOU GO?"
"This summer, be prepared for a journey of excitement, 'hatedness', betrayal, redemption... and software pirates!"
"If you only see one epic movie this year, make it..."
"MY GF'S STARCRAFT VACATION 2012"
Fade to black
Explosion of text
"Welcome to the Zerg Rush... OF YOUR LIFE!!"
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Even though EternalWraith comes on like a crazed fanatic, this thread requires a devil's advocate. This can't be a one-sided discussion. There ARE a large number of good features in Bnet 2. As he said, he is going to post his ideas on what this is at a future date, so I'm interested in seeing his thoughts.
As for my own thoughts. I do prefer many of the features from Bnet 1 over Bnet 2. At the same time, this video also made me realize that War3 has been seen through a rosy lens of nostalgia, I feel the old Custom map system was terrible also and would be unhappy if they reverted it to this and left it at that. It has 2 positive features (showing active map lobbies and promoting new maps), but for long term popularity I feel it would be plagued with the same repeated maps as the front page of the SC2 page and I believe Blizzard is well on it's way to developing a better system. The problem? The game is 2 years old and everyone who bought it has quit or plays ladder exclusively. This new 'arcade' and purchaseable maps will require a complete shift in Blizzards stance on the custom scene if it's gonna fix anything.
Blizzard has ignored custom maps to the extent that a majority of players playing the game have zero interest in custom maps (99%). A single melee map probably sees a hundred-thousand times more play than the most popular custom map. Blizzard needs to PROMOTE the custom map system, they need to realize that the maps they have created are terrible and that only through driving community initiative, partnering with great community maps and helping spread word, will people be interested in trying this new system they brewed up for HOTS. They need to INCLUDE major mapmakers and mapmaking sites (cough cough mapster), not tell us "I know we never communicate with you, and our attempts at mapmaking have failed in our own system, but this time we're totally on it, so without consulting the custom community about a custom tool or acknowledging it's existance, we're just going to surprise you!" Without an active participation in the community, this fancy new system will fall on it's face when it still only captures the attention of 1% of players.
They need to do spotlights of maps daily, they need to promote popular maps and host tournaments,ladders,etc (we already know you can make these systems automated). They need to make Melee'ers want to try custom maps and nonplayers to try SC and try it's custom maps free. By limiting the trial to poorly received Blizzard-made maps you are just turning them off. They need to value the custom experience as being 50% of the force behind driving game longevity. I'm no expert but it seems like the map forum is unmoderated, the custom map development team is incapable, and whoever is in charge of the editor and custom games is either inept, overworked or powerless(probably this). I mean: i feel that the editor has the detail and features that somewhere in Irvine there are a large number of people who put their time and very heart into making it, they must be as disappointed as us at it's failure. But is this entire division of the game just horribly understaffed and ignored? I mean, the facebook page seems to have more activity and a larger team than a game-component that could attract thousands, if not millions of new players.
Current "attempts" at Featured maps are such a passive route to map promotion it's not even funny. I feel like map designers are all running around with scissors in a dark room and every month or two blizzard throws in a flashlight with dead batteries, yells "we care" and leaves for another few months. Additionally, if they hope Blizzard DOTA and the Arcade will revive custom maps by just throwing it in the mix and forgetting it, they are putting all their eggs in one deformed basket as they have failed in all previous attempts at creating a fun popular map and a popularity system.
/rant
TL:DR Biggest issue with custom maps is Blizzard's complete disregard and lack of communication with the mapmaking community. In other words: this post is way off topic.
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I think visual polish should be left till last. I always think minimalistic is better.
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Oops, ya. I meant more they should allow for more than 20 maps/mods as long as you stay under account limit. Accidentally typed 10.
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Zenx makes some very good realistic propositions, Taintedwisp's, although cool, are simply unrealistic and will almost all never happen.
Personally my hopes are:
-Ability to use expansion features in WoL editor. ( Don't want to buy an expansion JUST for the UI editor, fixes, etc)
-Ability to retrieve Battlenet Time/date from server via triggers
-More flexibility in Catalog Set trigger.
-Higher map limit (than 20, even if 100mb limit isn't increased)
-Serverside banks
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I'm not sure what the heck you are talking about. Could just be me though.