Very sorry to keep being the bearer of bad news, but I got another freeze with the newest verision.
Also there's something I don't understand. When Sin Ar says that she'll tell Stukov "something" (or something similar, I can't remember exactly) there's no additional lines, that really breaks the flow of the story.
The gameplay is imo a little lacking. Many of the bosses don't output enough damage to kill you (even with the projectiles which you can't dodge). My cycle ends up being clicking the boss, w,e,s (to kill mobs), repeat once w's off cooldown.
Destruction Wave seems to damage your own units for some reason.
Ash worm fight seems a little buggy and annoying
Red circles do not indicate where fire will land, seems to be a 'red circle' of targeting, then another 'red circle' as it launches projectile, giving a tiny amount of time to dodge.
Boss can often burrow before you reach it, you have to hope it unburrows in the same place or you're just stuck inbetween 2 spawn locations
Boss can be hit before unburrowing/while burrowing. The latter leads to some issues with AA animations, where it suddenly stretches across half the map.
At 8:34 (on hard) the game freezes, then it appears the AI starts to rebuild (probes are produced at nexus, pylons get warped in). Your AI improvements just don't seem to kick-in before the freeze.
Also another small issue (see attachment)
While the camera focusing on this and not on stukov, is a new problem, there has been an extreme FPS drop when that flowing thing is focused on (even in previous maps).
Freeze how ? Stop running ?, error message pop up ? Frame rate drop ? Computer crash ? sc2editor crash ?
SC2 just sort of froze for a bit, and froze at other points during the game. If it makes any difference, I attacked the top left base first (used an overlord drop to get past the colossi)
Mapsters is a fun and interesting campaign, and is absolutely worth playing by all. It pulls off a decently-written unserious story (I'm not great at evaluating stories, so this rating is very high praise), its terrain, and unique mechanics every map.
Where mapsters falls short is in gameplay. I felt incredibly limited to the point that I only built one or two types of units in a mission. This turns mapsters from an RTS map to a micro-puzzle map, where you find the unit that works the best and mass it. The worst offenders are mission 1 and 2, where it's very hard to get anything but mass zerglings due to the gas you'll be pumping into hockleberry+upgrades. Mission 3 is a lot better since you get banelings to play with, along with enough gas to produce things like roaches and hydras. The anti-ground protoss mechanic of 5 really makes it incredibly micro-intensive to attack with a ground army, along with huge losses you'll be taking against reavers. Combine that with the advantages of mutalisks...
While there's nothing wrong a few limits to what you can build, or less efficient comps, it's just that I feel that I'm extremely limited every mission except for 3, the gates for success for inefficient comps are incredibly high, and for missions 1 and 2 in particular, you cannot have a composition that wins without a large portion being the offending unit.
However, the puzzle aspect does mean it's a good test for players to see if they can determine what they need and execute that build, and as such I feel Mapsters is best played without any aid of walkthrough vids.
Warning: review gets less serious ahead.
Releasing 5 missions only is a stroke of genius, though. It's clear how the plot resolves. For those of you who are lazy, let me guide you through the only way the plot can end, starting with this:
This proves that Jayborino doesn't really exist, as Mapsters states he does have a daughter (sorry if you were big on that existence thing, Jay). Now since it's obvious that Jay cannot be real, who could be posing as Jayborino? Who wants to kidnap Hockleberry and poison ElvinDL?
The answer is obvious, the zerg CEO. Let us remember that ElvinDL moved up the ranks via BETRAYAL, and suddenly in mission 4 after an interaction with Jay, repents. Is he actually poisoned or is that a side effect of his brain being rewritten by the Zerg CEO? Is the zerg CEO rewriting minds with his own? Yes! What's better than one brilliant CEO? A management team made up of mental copies of the brilliant CEO!
So why is hockleberry needed? He has to die in order for Wargirl to get promoted to match her skill. I mean you fight an upper level manager and take on the cult of Sixen. Wargirl's pretty skilled if she can take 'em on. But look at what you can do while you have hockleberry around. Mass zerglings? Can't build support units like infestors and gas-heavy attack units at the same time? Ultras are a luxury item? That's what a low-level manager would do, not a middle or upper manager. Why can't wargirl do cool zerg things? Hockleberry! He's gotta go for Wargirl to be promoted.
So in mission 6, Hockleberry dies, you "kill" the Jaypuppet, Wargirl gets promoted, and everyone is happy (except for Jayborino who doesn't exist, ElvinDL who is now becoming a mind-clone of the CEO, Hockleberry for obvious reasons, and the protoss and the terrans who you murdered), I MEAN EVERYONE.
1. Guider of Light(ning?)? (playing off holy + psionic themes) (what kind of weapon does it have?) 1. Speakers? (Playing off more psionic themes + a "connection" to their god or whatever)
2. Blur (shadow fury makes them move fast)
3. No idea. shame it wasn't a unique unit, I liked calling it "the Galahad". Is it actually incredibly survivable or is it just meant to pack a punch to anti-armored units?
4. Current thoughts on this is to look to Norse myths/names. Odin (the all-seeing (hint: detection)) owned two wolves. Might be interesting.
5. Berserkr (add e's if necessary)
6. Cleanser? (I'm assuming it's an AoE unit, when it fires it'll cleanse quite a bit of space)
7. Euthanizer? (medical word + death representing poison) 7. Sanctifier? (more holy)
You need to tell us more stuff about them imo. Things that could effect naming:
Are these units multiple or single? (Ex. naming a group of massable immortals "Paladins" vs. giving 1-3 immortals individual names like "The Galahad")
Do these units have a certain role, or unique aspect about them? (Ex. unit that is anti-infantry melee assassin, unit with special ability that corrodes armor)
Do they have meanings in the story? (ex. holy immortal??? lowly mineral collector??)
Also, try to start discussion on the discord. We have nothing better to do :P
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Very sorry to keep being the bearer of bad news, but I got another freeze with the newest verision.
Also there's something I don't understand. When Sin Ar says that she'll tell Stukov "something" (or something similar, I can't remember exactly) there's no additional lines, that really breaks the flow of the story.
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So ummm I played the latest mission:
The gameplay is imo a little lacking. Many of the bosses don't output enough damage to kill you (even with the projectiles which you can't dodge). My cycle ends up being clicking the boss, w,e,s (to kill mobs), repeat once w's off cooldown.
Destruction Wave seems to damage your own units for some reason.
Ash worm fight seems a little buggy and annoying
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Okay I think I see the problem now:
Currently:
At 8:34 (on hard) the game freezes, then it appears the AI starts to rebuild (probes are produced at nexus, pylons get warped in). Your AI improvements just don't seem to kick-in before the freeze.
Also another small issue (see attachment)
While the camera focusing on this and not on stukov, is a new problem, there has been an extreme FPS drop when that flowing thing is focused on (even in previous maps).
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Note: mission 5 is not complete, cybros is still making balance changes
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The game kept freezing during Mission #3. First one happened at 6:34
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You can play as the same commander...
Also, some waves seem to spawn real close to objective and seem to prioritize it before your units.
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Mapsters is a fun and interesting campaign, and is absolutely worth playing by all. It pulls off a decently-written unserious story (I'm not great at evaluating stories, so this rating is very high praise), its terrain, and unique mechanics every map.
Where mapsters falls short is in gameplay. I felt incredibly limited to the point that I only built one or two types of units in a mission. This turns mapsters from an RTS map to a micro-puzzle map, where you find the unit that works the best and mass it. The worst offenders are mission 1 and 2, where it's very hard to get anything but mass zerglings due to the gas you'll be pumping into hockleberry+upgrades. Mission 3 is a lot better since you get banelings to play with, along with enough gas to produce things like roaches and hydras. The anti-ground protoss mechanic of 5 really makes it incredibly micro-intensive to attack with a ground army, along with huge losses you'll be taking against reavers. Combine that with the advantages of mutalisks...
While there's nothing wrong a few limits to what you can build, or less efficient comps, it's just that I feel that I'm extremely limited every mission except for 3, the gates for success for inefficient comps are incredibly high, and for missions 1 and 2 in particular, you cannot have a composition that wins without a large portion being the offending unit.
However, the puzzle aspect does mean it's a good test for players to see if they can determine what they need and execute that build, and as such I feel Mapsters is best played without any aid of walkthrough vids.
Warning: review gets less serious ahead.
Releasing 5 missions only is a stroke of genius, though. It's clear how the plot resolves. For those of you who are lazy, let me guide you through the only way the plot can end, starting with this:
This proves that Jayborino doesn't really exist, as Mapsters states he does have a daughter (sorry if you were big on that existence thing, Jay). Now since it's obvious that Jay cannot be real, who could be posing as Jayborino? Who wants to kidnap Hockleberry and poison ElvinDL?
The answer is obvious, the zerg CEO. Let us remember that ElvinDL moved up the ranks via BETRAYAL, and suddenly in mission 4 after an interaction with Jay, repents. Is he actually poisoned or is that a side effect of his brain being rewritten by the Zerg CEO? Is the zerg CEO rewriting minds with his own? Yes! What's better than one brilliant CEO? A management team made up of mental copies of the brilliant CEO!
So why is hockleberry needed? He has to die in order for Wargirl to get promoted to match her skill. I mean you fight an upper level manager and take on the cult of Sixen. Wargirl's pretty skilled if she can take 'em on. But look at what you can do while you have hockleberry around. Mass zerglings? Can't build support units like infestors and gas-heavy attack units at the same time? Ultras are a luxury item? That's what a low-level manager would do, not a middle or upper manager. Why can't wargirl do cool zerg things? Hockleberry! He's gotta go for Wargirl to be promoted.
So in mission 6, Hockleberry dies, you "kill" the Jaypuppet, Wargirl gets promoted, and everyone is happy (
except for Jayborino who doesn't exist, ElvinDL who is now becoming a mind-clone of the CEO, Hockleberry for obvious reasons, and the protoss and the terrans who you murdered), I MEAN EVERYONE.0
RIP march testing thread.
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Got an issue while launching M3 about stuff missing from .... ugh I can't remember and can't look up quickly.
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Managed to kill the last boss with 3 healing crystals still standing.
Why is one of the commanders expo a quick expansion, but the other is really slow (as you have to kill boss)?
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hmmmm
1. Guider of Light(ning?)? (playing off holy + psionic themes) (what kind of weapon does it have?)
1. Speakers? (Playing off more psionic themes + a "connection" to their god or whatever)
2. Blur (shadow fury makes them move fast)
3. No idea. shame it wasn't a unique unit, I liked calling it "the Galahad". Is it actually incredibly survivable or is it just meant to pack a punch to anti-armored units?
4. Current thoughts on this is to look to Norse myths/names. Odin (the all-seeing (hint: detection)) owned two wolves. Might be interesting.
5. Berserkr (add e's if necessary)
6. Cleanser? (I'm assuming it's an AoE unit, when it fires it'll cleanse quite a bit of space)
7. Euthanizer? (medical word + death representing poison)
7. Sanctifier? (more holy)
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You need to tell us more stuff about them imo. Things that could effect naming:
Also, try to start discussion on the discord. We have nothing better to do :P