That kind of behavior is the reason this entire thread was created. He put down the noob maps and kind of discouraged any other creators from even trying.
The following was copied and pasted. . . thought it would better fit here than where it was.. :
Hey, another person who uses solidworks for making the models, great! I'm assuming you've done everything correctly in converting the imported models into editable meshes, and so I will give you some basic guidance on how to do texturing, because it is not anything like any of the other engineering programs I use for applying textures (Granted, that is only solidworks and rhino).
First off, you have to create a material, as described by xcorbo. I personally use in-game textures (i.e., things from existing starcraft models) because I don't have the will/capacity to do any 2d art, and making normal maps looks like a pain. It also makes it easier for people to import. A good point of reference is to import an existing model and look at some of its material properties (specularity, flags, and multipliers) to see how things should be. This will also be VERY important in using particle emitters.
3ds max allows significantly more control of how textures are applied through use of the modifier "Unwrap UVW". This will allow you to "paint" a texture onto an existing model. Once you apply this modifier, you can click on "edit UVW". A window with a checkered background and a bunch of green squares will appear. In the upper right corner is a drop-down menu with the option to change the material from checkered to "Composite texturemap". The checkered squares are a default because they are extremly useful in checking scale/alignment between contiguous pieces, but in general you are going to want to work off the composite texture map, or the textures you are actually using. Once here, you may notice the green squares correspond to faces of your model. Play around to find out what all the different settings do, as there are quite a few that can assist the process. One hint: at the upper ribbon of this window is a menu called "mapping". Experiment with the different kinds of mapping you can perform on your model, as it will create different chunks of faces spaced out in different ways which can greatly ease your ensuing pain. Finally, if you are using a symmetric model, I suggest using only half of it, texturing it, and then mirroring it. It will save you some pain with 3ds max's lack of snaps.
Im hoping that you are wrong lol
Most programs, if they are working with older programs will work fine with newer ones because theyve just improved..
like sc1 will work on windows xp...and will definitely work on any computer that uses vista or 7.
I really hope I am just making some sort of error that someone else has already made... but since no one is awake yet lol I will try downloading 2011 :/ on top of 2012
Youtube did not help.. well it did tell me what i do not have.. So i downloaded the plug in from mapster.
I cant get the m3 import to do anything.. all the while i dnt even know if im going in the right direction.. I read the read me:
1. Must have 3ds max installed
2a. Extract the m3_import script (.ms) into your 3ds max '...\Scripts' directory, optionally you can place the script in your '...\Scripts\Startup\' directory to have it automatically load when you launch 3ds Max.
2b. If you want to use Starcraft 2 objects in max (custom materials, maps) then place 'sc2_objects.ms' into your 3ds max '...\Plugins' directory.
3. Click on the hammer icon on the default right hand side pane, and click on the MAXScript button. If you didn't have 3ds max automatically load it upon launch, click 'Run Script' from the rollout dialog and locate the script.
4. Select 'M3 - Export' from the Utilities drop down menu.
5. Click the 'Export' button!
I got the 2012 version so maybe something has changed? There is no export button that I saw.. I have redownloaded the mapster plug in 3-4 times..
I just want to get units from sc2 into it.
I made it a few seconds into the video to see him go into the utilities, and thats the part.. he has that drop down menu just below "run script" that has "m3-Export"... ive restarted the 3ds max program like 4 times hoping that each change i made with the files would be the one that makes it work. I moved the files (like the readme says i could do) into the startup folder.. I also have a copy in the scripts folder.
No matter what i do with any of the "MAXscript" buttons there are no things that say "ms - Export" anywhere..
I have 3ds max too.. I'm sure you saw my post in general chat.. just got the program not even an hour ago and I am terrified lol
Welcome to the team Sarges.. Good to see you stretching your knowledge.
I understand what you're saying about the vague questions. So let me clarify from my other posts, if you havent seen my 20 million related to dark toss already... My dark toss units are pink as of now.. and I think perhaps I have to take the units/files ive downloaded from this website and some how convert them? or merge them? into one...
Sucks that the Drak Protoss upgrade only works enough to tease you and give you in imperfect race.. most dark some light. So to make it seamless, the upgrade teased me into learning this model stuff. Now instead of something that should have taken 5 minutes maybe less.. is gonna take me 5 days maybe more...
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lol some people are just too high on themselves.
That kind of behavior is the reason this entire thread was created. He put down the noob maps and kind of discouraged any other creators from even trying.
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The following was copied and pasted. . . thought it would better fit here than where it was.. : Hey, another person who uses solidworks for making the models, great! I'm assuming you've done everything correctly in converting the imported models into editable meshes, and so I will give you some basic guidance on how to do texturing, because it is not anything like any of the other engineering programs I use for applying textures (Granted, that is only solidworks and rhino).
First off, you have to create a material, as described by xcorbo. I personally use in-game textures (i.e., things from existing starcraft models) because I don't have the will/capacity to do any 2d art, and making normal maps looks like a pain. It also makes it easier for people to import. A good point of reference is to import an existing model and look at some of its material properties (specularity, flags, and multipliers) to see how things should be. This will also be VERY important in using particle emitters.
3ds max allows significantly more control of how textures are applied through use of the modifier "Unwrap UVW". This will allow you to "paint" a texture onto an existing model. Once you apply this modifier, you can click on "edit UVW". A window with a checkered background and a bunch of green squares will appear. In the upper right corner is a drop-down menu with the option to change the material from checkered to "Composite texturemap". The checkered squares are a default because they are extremly useful in checking scale/alignment between contiguous pieces, but in general you are going to want to work off the composite texture map, or the textures you are actually using. Once here, you may notice the green squares correspond to faces of your model. Play around to find out what all the different settings do, as there are quite a few that can assist the process. One hint: at the upper ribbon of this window is a menu called "mapping". Experiment with the different kinds of mapping you can perform on your model, as it will create different chunks of faces spaced out in different ways which can greatly ease your ensuing pain. Finally, if you are using a symmetric model, I suggest using only half of it, texturing it, and then mirroring it. It will save you some pain with 3ds max's lack of snaps.
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@Scbroodsc2: Go
lol I hope it would happen. imagine that big one lol.. how would that be made?? the big red flying bird creature... would be awesome.
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Man, you could have made this a really fun map had you not quit on map editing.
The description just now gave a an entire different image of the map you've made.. Ill see if i can message ingame.
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@TheAlmaity: Go
I just got the toss units from http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dark-protoss/
dnt know anything about what u said.. about emissive or anything, just that they are files that came with the downloads...
Guess ill be learning about them in the editor... as soon as this 2011 3dmax installs..
The units are solid pink on the lowest settings. they glow on the higher settings.
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@Swagblanket: Go
I have heard of skype being a bit laggy tho. Oovoo is what I've used to talk to my family in california.. I live in nc.
It doesnt let you share your desktop but it does play smoother with vidoe chat.
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lol... seeing that i am making my map intended to be better than nexus wars... this is very good insight.
I definitely could use some help lol
I have been told that my map is better than nexus wars already! And that is a nice compliment seeing that Im not even half way done.. I dnt think.
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Im hoping that you are wrong lol Most programs, if they are working with older programs will work fine with newer ones because theyve just improved..
like sc1 will work on windows xp...and will definitely work on any computer that uses vista or 7.
I really hope I am just making some sort of error that someone else has already made... but since no one is awake yet lol I will try downloading 2011 :/ on top of 2012
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@sigmapl: Go
So you're saying I have to download an older version??
Or is there something I can change in the settings of 3dsmax to make it run like a 2011?
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@ScorpSCII: Go
So ive made progress.
Youtube did not help.. well it did tell me what i do not have.. So i downloaded the plug in from mapster.
I cant get the m3 import to do anything.. all the while i dnt even know if im going in the right direction.. I read the read me: 1. Must have 3ds max installed
2a. Extract the m3_import script (.ms) into your 3ds max '...\Scripts' directory, optionally you can place the script in your '...\Scripts\Startup\' directory to have it automatically load when you launch 3ds Max.
2b. If you want to use Starcraft 2 objects in max (custom materials, maps) then place 'sc2_objects.ms' into your 3ds max '...\Plugins' directory.
3. Click on the hammer icon on the default right hand side pane, and click on the MAXScript button. If you didn't have 3ds max automatically load it upon launch, click 'Run Script' from the rollout dialog and locate the script.
4. Select 'M3 - Export' from the Utilities drop down menu.
5. Click the 'Export' button!
I got the 2012 version so maybe something has changed? There is no export button that I saw.. I have redownloaded the mapster plug in 3-4 times..
I just want to get units from sc2 into it.
I made it a few seconds into the video to see him go into the utilities, and thats the part.. he has that drop down menu just below "run script" that has "m3-Export"... ive restarted the 3ds max program like 4 times hoping that each change i made with the files would be the one that makes it work. I moved the files (like the readme says i could do) into the startup folder.. I also have a copy in the scripts folder.
No matter what i do with any of the "MAXscript" buttons there are no things that say "ms - Export" anywhere..
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@xcorbo: Go
I have 3ds max too.. I'm sure you saw my post in general chat.. just got the program not even an hour ago and I am terrified lol
Welcome to the team Sarges.. Good to see you stretching your knowledge.
I understand what you're saying about the vague questions. So let me clarify from my other posts, if you havent seen my 20 million related to dark toss already... My dark toss units are pink as of now.. and I think perhaps I have to take the units/files ive downloaded from this website and some how convert them? or merge them? into one...
Sucks that the Drak Protoss upgrade only works enough to tease you and give you in imperfect race.. most dark some light. So to make it seamless, the upgrade teased me into learning this model stuff. Now instead of something that should have taken 5 minutes maybe less.. is gonna take me 5 days maybe more...
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I just down loaded this program and me oh me oh my it is huge lol
I just don't know if I am smart enough to handle this level of detail.
http://usa.autodesk.com/3ds-max/
I just watched the tutorilas provided and I think this is really for people who already have a job related to this type of program.
I got the student license version and now I just want to make my dark protoss work :/ ... I cant even import the units I have downloaded.
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@Taintedwisp: Go
lol..... man this is great stuff haha.
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@strhsxx: Go
I think you consfused me..
fyi: the editor is good for arranging teams.. set up team placements (map>player attributes, or basic team placement, or advanced team placement)
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really dnt want to dload anything... gonna try and find this 3dmax program online....