Well... I cant find map in the list... If I host nobody joins. So basically bnet is at the time being Bnet is useless for custom maps. Editor is so so. Only melee multiplayer and campaign is worth playing.
People have been complaining about it since it was released in beta. They are working on it, and you know how fast they are...
I think a way better system would be to randomly sort maps, and leave popularity out completely. Makers of the map can check total number of games played and games/hour in the editor (to see whether the map is actually being played).
That way, a different map would always be on top. every few hours a couple of new maps from the bottom of the list are moved to the top (or everything is randomized again). So people to lazy to scroll will just pick whatever map is up, and if they like, they'll use the search function to find it again once the map isn't on the first few pages. Probably not a perfect system, but way better than only 30 maps being played in total...
I know they are working on it, seen also that people complain there.
I KNOW HOW FAST THEY ARE. NEXT EXPANSION COMES IN 18 MONTHS !!!!!
Wait, still no kill fix ? I mean its boring. There is no challenge. Basically what you have to do is keep away from enemies, Busy rockets(later mguns) buy all mguns drones.
Coz this is fastest farm setup.
Then farm for tank, armor healing. No varietly in there...
When there will be another productive update ? New weapons, and reward for killing ?
I dont have anything to play :) . And this is boring playing against AI, since its almost useless to kill players... you just have to dodge them.
Another thing what boring is, are those armor regens, and dont use hit points, use armor everywhere... I see health and armor but its same thing, just confusing people.
I'm probably going to have to remake the whole terrain at some point.
The layout just doesn't seem optimal anymore. I have this nice idea of a
mar'sara landscape with deep canyons and interspersed abandoned terran
outposts, with 2 derelict strongholds at either side of the map. The
whole map would have a refinery/disused mine feel to it, with pipes
running through and around the landscape and gaping holes from past
excavations.
His terrain template looks great. I dislike new template you did Evy. Current one is also really good. It would be great to have like current one and something the one zenasprime made :P . Then you can just pick one.
As I said. There is best formula to get money=>items=> build in fastest time.
And if anyone wants to distract you from that, he will suffer as well...
When you scan everything in this map, and all actions, then you get what actions you need to take to accomplish that.
One of things you will get is that what Ryaneko wrote in his 1st line.
It lacks of balance a lot. Before victory objectives change, version was quite ok. After that. Its balance was downgraded, a lot.
So what I am suggesting here is to investigate few things and balance the map instead adding new meaningless content. Like aircraft deceleration that is bugged anyway how I read here. It triggers when you update item ?
I kinda dont play this map that often anymore. I hope you noticed that there is no real reason killing enemy players... so its not challenging anymore... as it was before.
its just lacks a good manual.. or people lack brain. i mean there is
standing "same items do not stack" what do people do? buy 20
repairkits... and people just ignore the helpmenu (f12) effectively.
air needs to go.. it does just not fit. or maybe you want another game
than most people i dont know.
oh and just watch the middle layout + creepways.. then do it again
please. they enter the side and the middle entry is what? useless!
Actually, who will press f12 in middle of game. Thats for SP games. In fast paced MP games everything must be in front of your face. Its just how it is... I learned that while developing maps on wc3.
Maybe you could add a immovable/undroppable dummy item to the inventory at the first collumn of each row with a general weapon/armor/shield/drone/system/ability icon. This way it is easier for new players to see which item goes on which row.
It's not perfect since you get messages when trying to interact with the dummy items but I think it would make things alot clearer.
I wrote something like that few posts behind. Also, if you hover over INV icon its all written. Tho nobody will notice that...
There are lot more problems that newcomers will bump to. And there are some other unfriendliness sadly.
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Well... I cant find map in the list... If I host nobody joins. So basically bnet is at the time being Bnet is useless for custom maps. Editor is so so. Only melee multiplayer and campaign is worth playing.
I know they are working on it, seen also that people complain there.
I KNOW HOW FAST THEY ARE. NEXT EXPANSION COMES IN 18 MONTHS !!!!!
Post that on blizz official forums. These statements should go there.
Lazy got some good arguments.
@Eiviyn: Go
Last version i played was .47 or .48.
Now, this map is laggy as hell. At least .51 version... And tanks are still overpowered in most games.
Wait, still no kill fix ? I mean its boring. There is no challenge. Basically what you have to do is keep away from enemies, Busy rockets(later mguns) buy all mguns drones.
Coz this is fastest farm setup.
Then farm for tank, armor healing. No varietly in there...
When there will be another productive update ? New weapons, and reward for killing ?
I dont have anything to play :) . And this is boring playing against AI, since its almost useless to kill players... you just have to dodge them.
Another thing what boring is, are those armor regens, and dont use hit points, use armor everywhere... I see health and armor but its same thing, just confusing people.
Also, some abilities are useless.
Confusing for newcomers yes. Dont do it. People will hate it.
Actually I dislike this part. Somehow, it can be abused by planes. I just dont like those holes. It takes away lots of space...
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8756/terrain026.jpg
His terrain template looks great. I dislike new template you did Evy. Current one is also really good. It would be great to have like current one and something the one zenasprime made :P . Then you can just pick one.
As I said. There is best formula to get money=>items=> build in fastest time. And if anyone wants to distract you from that, he will suffer as well...
When you scan everything in this map, and all actions, then you get what actions you need to take to accomplish that.
One of things you will get is that what Ryaneko wrote in his 1st line.
It lacks of balance a lot. Before victory objectives change, version was quite ok. After that. Its balance was downgraded, a lot.
So what I am suggesting here is to investigate few things and balance the map instead adding new meaningless content. Like aircraft deceleration that is bugged anyway how I read here. It triggers when you update item ?
I kinda dont play this map that often anymore. I hope you noticed that there is no real reason killing enemy players... so its not challenging anymore... as it was before.
Actually, who will press f12 in middle of game. Thats for SP games. In fast paced MP games everything must be in front of your face. Its just how it is... I learned that while developing maps on wc3.
I wrote something like that few posts behind. Also, if you hover over INV icon its all written. Tho nobody will notice that...
There are lot more problems that newcomers will bump to. And there are some other unfriendliness sadly.