Biographer John Toland explains Hitler's reason for exterminating the Jews:
"Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy, 'I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so,' he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of God. The extermination, therefore, could be done without a twinge of conscience since he was merely acting as the avenging hand of God - so long as it was done impersonally, without cruelty."[Toland, p. 703]
"If anyone can lay claim to God's help, then it is Hitler, for without God's benevolent fatherly hand, without his blessing, the nation would not be where it stands today. It is an unbelievable miracle that God has bestowed on our people."
-Minister Rust, in a speech to a mass meeting of German Chrisitans on June 29, 1933 [Helmreich, p. 138]
Most dictator thinks that they are gods or hand of the god since written time (Egypt...). Its kind of logical to believe like that, if you have that amount of power over other people.
@Eiviyn: Go
Even the well-known crusades weren't as much of the "religious people A putting a jihad on religious people B because they have different beliefs" as you seemed to be making it out with your older post. The biggest cause for the whole thing was the fact that people in Europe were murdering eachother (tying into your moral compass discussion). The pope didn't like this (because all people in Europe are supposed to be Christian brothers) and simply found a way to direct the agression outwards. You give religion too much credit.
Omfg, you do actually believe the shit you saying?
The Pope and his friends got actually fucking rich from the crusades, while the army actually pillaged and raped half Europe by the time they reached the holy land. And Europe had war and killing under crusades...
@Mozared: Go
I not really have aim for my life, but if I would have to say something, than I would say something like this: gathering as much "useful" information and experience as I can, where the useful highly determined by difference between the new information and my already gathered informations/experiences. (kind of discovering things)
Ok my example wasnt the best. But its simple: there are easy ways to reach happiness and there are hard ways which may not even trigger happiness. Easy and the Hard way is an old concept... I just go even further a bit.
All these theories about the universe still don't answer my question. Do I have to think I'm immortal in order to be the happiest man on Earth?
No. just take some really hardcore drugs and you will be the happiest man on the Earth.
(I always find people narrow minded, who say their aim is to be happy. For example I find programing some stuff quite usefull, but it doesnt makes me happy.)
Regardless of how and whether you want to argue about this, his point stands. Glorn was comparing the effect of indiviuals on society to the effect one single planet/shape of mass might have on the entire universe. The rest is detail. I'm sure someone well-versed in the subject could point out a number of ways in which one event in the universe could lead to the destruction/implosion/explosion of a large part of it.
@Hookah604: Go
Imploding stars create black holes. Some stars are much more dense than other; thus create much more powerful black holes. We have studied, arguably, 1% of space. We have already discovered black holes large enough to consume entire galaxies.
It is theororized that the universe is sort of donut shaped; being wider towards the outsides; but "nothing" in the center; not even universe; complete nothingness; our, "The outterverse". Assuming a mammoth black hole were to form from an exploding star near the interior ring of the universe; perhaps it would have enough pull to suck something through the outterverse. Who knows what kind of chaos that could create?
Odd that you could take an example not related to the topic and question that though; opposed to all of the other questionable statements I made.
Sorry but you probably have some miss beliefs here.
Just only stars which are higher than x mass goes blackhole and these are rare occurrences.
We might have studied only 1% of the universe but from that we can easily imagine/caluclate how the other 99% evolved.
Most galaxies have super massive blackhole at the center (like our galaxy is having one too). None galaxy jet found which is consumed by its blackhole and if there is cases like that, than it would have been detected most likely in the last 5 year or so, as these days there many projects which uses gravitational lensing, which would easily detect lonely super massive blackhole.
Also it seems like energy is leaving super massive blackholes, long jet trails observed from the center galaxies to out the empty space. (however it might be coming from the event horizon)
Great, it seems like the Doughnut theory completely mislead you.
Lets first state I dont believe this theory and only very few physicist believe it.
Now let me explain that there is nothing in the center of Doughnut, if there is something, than that is in another dimension and its not from this dimension. Because its a bended Einstein space-time universe shape, if the theory is true than the gravity bended the universe that way or other mysterious forces bended...
(Also if we think there is more dimensions and that there is something other outside our universe, than in that higher dimensional geometry there might not be things like torus)
Also lots of people have the misunderstanding that matter not distrusted evenly in the universe. However the matter is pretty evenly distributed in the space as the expansion of the universe is happening as the space stretches and not by the big bang's kinetic force. Actually there is no sign of kinetic force from the big bang in the background radiation (CMB) or in any other observation.
(Inflationary universe theory even states that in the first milliseconds of time the stretching of space was so fast that if you would taken to distant matter than the distance between them probably expanded faster than speed of light and this isnt due to kinetic force so its allowed by Einstein.D and this also allows that physicists think that the width of the universe is around 100 billion light years, when the universe is around 13.7 billion years old.)
Also todays its pretty accepted that space expanding faster and faster.
Which leads to some wild estimates that if it continues at this exponential speed, than the distances between galaxies would expand faster than light speed in 300 million year.)
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And I picked out this, because It suggested that you have very bad misbelief about our universe.
@RodrigoAlves: Go
Dam spelling correction "consciousness"
Anyway, this would mean with end up with a consciousness, which is unresetable...
I will just stick to that we start with an empty brain designed by the genetic code which is combined from my ancestors and mutated by radiation. And this unpredictable hardware is than filled up with information from its environment, which could result in selfawareness/consciousness. This just way more beautifully for me, than having constants which eventually determines me or even completely valuates the data which is coming from my brain/hardware.
@Hookah604: Go
Think of consciousness as money. If we are immortal, does that mean we are doomed to be poor? No. More we live, more we learn and can get better jobs and earn more money. We do spend a lot of money (mistakes), but we can always pay our old debts. You're right, we can't renew ourselves. That means we can't change our beginning, but we can always make a new end (exept Blizzard, that one is doomed).
Its hard to think like that, specially with a mind which writes programs. Why than genetic code doesnt transfers conciseness? And we start with a empty brain, which we have to fill up.
I think its like windows. When it gets filled up with shit, it breaks down in its complexness and can no longer function (vista).
Theist response: Ohhh no, but how cant you believe anything? How cant you be sure in anything?
Its lol that this movie is still not taken down from youtube. Its not an old movie and its pretty good movie.
@BasharTeg: Go
Biographer John Toland explains Hitler's reason for exterminating the Jews:
"Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy, 'I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so,' he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of God. The extermination, therefore, could be done without a twinge of conscience since he was merely acting as the avenging hand of God - so long as it was done impersonally, without cruelty."[Toland, p. 703]
"If anyone can lay claim to God's help, then it is Hitler, for without God's benevolent fatherly hand, without his blessing, the nation would not be where it stands today. It is an unbelievable miracle that God has bestowed on our people."
-Minister Rust, in a speech to a mass meeting of German Chrisitans on June 29, 1933 [Helmreich, p. 138]
Most dictator thinks that they are gods or hand of the god since written time (Egypt...). Its kind of logical to believe like that, if you have that amount of power over other people.
@Eiviyn: Go I dont know how can you read all this crap in this thread and even reply to it.
Omfg, you do actually believe the shit you saying?
The Pope and his friends got actually fucking rich from the crusades, while the army actually pillaged and raped half Europe by the time they reached the holy land. And Europe had war and killing under crusades...
@Eiviyn: Go I approve messages from you.
Others: read more books.
@Mozared: Go I not really have aim for my life, but if I would have to say something, than I would say something like this: gathering as much "useful" information and experience as I can, where the useful highly determined by difference between the new information and my already gathered informations/experiences. (kind of discovering things)
Ok my example wasnt the best. But its simple: there are easy ways to reach happiness and there are hard ways which may not even trigger happiness. Easy and the Hard way is an old concept... I just go even further a bit.
No. just take some really hardcore drugs and you will be the happiest man on the Earth.
(I always find people narrow minded, who say their aim is to be happy. For example I find programing some stuff quite usefull, but it doesnt makes me happy.)
Butterfly effect....
Sorry but you probably have some miss beliefs here.
Just only stars which are higher than x mass goes blackhole and these are rare occurrences.
We might have studied only 1% of the universe but from that we can easily imagine/caluclate how the other 99% evolved.
Most galaxies have super massive blackhole at the center (like our galaxy is having one too). None galaxy jet found which is consumed by its blackhole and if there is cases like that, than it would have been detected most likely in the last 5 year or so, as these days there many projects which uses gravitational lensing, which would easily detect lonely super massive blackhole.
Also it seems like energy is leaving super massive blackholes, long jet trails observed from the center galaxies to out the empty space. (however it might be coming from the event horizon)
Great, it seems like the Doughnut theory completely mislead you.
Lets first state I dont believe this theory and only very few physicist believe it.
Now let me explain that there is nothing in the center of Doughnut, if there is something, than that is in another dimension and its not from this dimension. Because its a bended Einstein space-time universe shape, if the theory is true than the gravity bended the universe that way or other mysterious forces bended...
(Also if we think there is more dimensions and that there is something other outside our universe, than in that higher dimensional geometry there might not be things like torus)
Also lots of people have the misunderstanding that matter not distrusted evenly in the universe. However the matter is pretty evenly distributed in the space as the expansion of the universe is happening as the space stretches and not by the big bang's kinetic force. Actually there is no sign of kinetic force from the big bang in the background radiation (CMB) or in any other observation.
(Inflationary universe theory even states that in the first milliseconds of time the stretching of space was so fast that if you would taken to distant matter than the distance between them probably expanded faster than speed of light and this isnt due to kinetic force so its allowed by Einstein.D and this also allows that physicists think that the width of the universe is around 100 billion light years, when the universe is around 13.7 billion years old.)
Also todays its pretty accepted that space expanding faster and faster.
Which leads to some wild estimates that if it continues at this exponential speed, than the distances between galaxies would expand faster than light speed in 300 million year.)
edit:
And I picked out this, because It suggested that you have very bad misbelief about our universe.
How?
@RodrigoAlves: Go Dam spelling correction "consciousness"
Anyway, this would mean with end up with a consciousness, which is unresetable...
I will just stick to that we start with an empty brain designed by the genetic code which is combined from my ancestors and mutated by radiation. And this unpredictable hardware is than filled up with information from its environment, which could result in selfawareness/consciousness. This just way more beautifully for me, than having constants which eventually determines me or even completely valuates the data which is coming from my brain/hardware.
Its hard to think like that, specially with a mind which writes programs. Why than genetic code doesnt transfers conciseness? And we start with a empty brain, which we have to fill up.
I think its like windows. When it gets filled up with shit, it breaks down in its complexness and can no longer function (vista).
What the fuck is Home economics?
US always surprises me with utterly retarded eduction.
Lets hijack this thread a bit, for a better and nicer discussion:
If there is afterlife, what kind of afterlife would you like???