so if anyone who already watched it wanna hang out here share your thoughts please :D
I personaly enjoyed movie alot, but the diversity of magic shown in cgi feels somewhat lacking, especialy after i saw so many interviews with director who claimed this movie to be the most advanced in special effects department. I expected more diverse color palette for spells and something interesting, like almost trying to implement gameplay logic of spells into movie scene. This is what Lord of the Rings was lacking in my opinion (gandalf with flashlight from his staff = lame) and what i realy expected from Warcraft. (i mean, 4 years of filming, c'mon)
Also i kind of felt the smell of plastic through the screen from footman's costumes. I think they cut the production cost and decided to not use post processing for them?
Other than that i enjoyed the movie, I'm glad they decided to take the original game story instead of WOW. The storyline feels acceptable, not some random rudimentary element that scenarists tried to attach in excuse for battle scenes.
They certainly spent a lot of money and time on Durotan, i just like that character design and the amount of details in his face expressions.
I don't claim my rating to be meaningful for anyone but let me give it 8.5/10 score :D
feel free to post your opinions if anyone still alive on this site XD
This is my 2nd favorite movie of this year thus far. The first one (it was just released first) was Batman vs Superman (soundtrack and how well it's directed left marvel far behind in my opinion).
Well i want to argue about 100m$+ cost. I think it is not that much for this franchise, it's kind of surprising actualy, because i saw some films (even Avatar, which is utter TRASH in my opinion) with 200-300m$+ production cost.
I think it may be because such films have explosion scenes, massive car crashes and US navy forces :D, while warcraft expences was mostly at cgi and decorations that they even didn't blow up multiple times :D
I personaly enjoyed movie alot, but the diversity of magic shown in cgi feels somewhat lacking, especialy after i saw so many interviews with director who claimed this movie to be the most advanced in special effects department. I expected more diverse color palette for spells and something interesting, like almost trying to implement gameplay logic of spells into movie scene. This is what Lord of the Rings was lacking in my opinion (gandalf with flashlight from his staff = lame) and what i realy expected from Warcraft. (i mean, 4 years of filming, c'mon)
I'm pretty sure what the director was talking about here was Karazhan and Medivh, but really primarily the Orcs. I have to say they looked amazing in every sense of it.
Spoilers below
The movie wasn't the cheap popcorn flick I expected it to be, but it wasn't great either. It's a nice addition to the universe for fans of WarCraft, but I can imagine that those not into it already just spent a lot of time being confused or finding the story somewhat lame. The way Garona 'turns good' is absolutely unbelievable in the movie, even if it's obvious they really tried to make it a gradual explainable thing. We're seeing her go from being an Orc/siding mostly with Orcs to becoming a staunch protector of King Llane in a timespan of seemingly a week or so. Had I not known there was some more behind that in the universe, I would've thought this was an exceptionally weak plotline.
That said, I thought the storyline was okay, or at least better than average. It takes a couple of somewhat unsuspected turns, and in a world so saturated with stories that's a decent achievement. It's not a Game of Thrones level plot, but it's 'okay'.
What I am excited about, though, is the second war. I'd absolutely love to see one or two movies depicting the events of Tides of War and Beyond the Dark Portal, with Khadgar, Alleria and the likes going through to close it on Draenor. I mean: I'd also love four movies depicting the campaigns from Reign of Chaos, but Tides of War seems like an actual possibility.
Yup, yup. What I'm hoping for would be a third or even fourth movie. It won't be the next one. That said, Thrall's time in Durnholde Keep and the story of how he got rid of the corruption of Gul'dan wouldn't make for a bad movie either.
What I liked in this movie relatively to the LotR is that it's more fantasy stylized, brighter visually and lighter emotionally. LotR director wanted to show reality, while Warcraft creators wanted to show fiction world without any rational or aesthetics limits. So, It's closer to a cartoon, but only visually and emotionally, in the same time the level of details of lanscapes and costumes is incredible.
Fun thing I noticed: magic in Star Wars has no visuals (at least in the classic series), like when Darth Wader chokes the guy, or when they get stuff the telekinesis way - and it looks still convincing, though rather abstract. They relied more on the atmosphere. Oppositely magic visualization in Warcraft performed on a pretty high level, like in games, but movie-better. And therefore it allows to "feel" the magic synaesthetically in most of the senses, like a complex power. Somehow it's pretty entertaining.
Other cgi is a good technical achievement. All those monsters made so noticably better than LotR at graphics level, but slightly miss actor play (Gollum is stil unbeaten), but it simply allows us to forget that it's all graphics and just enjoy the story.
Though, a couple of times it felt a bit nooby, for example lightning when orcs floated in the portal - that looked like "we're doing stuff in a studio, let's add more light on that cheek for more realism!", also at one point in a forest light was so unrealistic, so again I thought about studio routines and electric like sources behind cameras. But those were only two small scenes, the rest has high quality.
So, visually this movie is a masterpiece, really strong grade of fantasyness, it simply teleports us in a sweet colorful dreamworld of magic.
The story is ok, but not extremely good, unfortunately. It's not as bad as sc2 stories. But I could compare it to another fantasy movie, Thor2 - that movie had some nice plot twists, and Warcraft has none. What happened to the Medivh was too simple and artificial. But the script fits some basic dramatic reqiremements, so it's fun to watch, interesting to follow the story, and characters are enjoyable. Even moderate pathos scenes forced me to feel compassion and inspiration kind of emotions.
What I personally enjoyed is that Lothar in mimics looked like an old soviet comedy actor, I even created a more precise version of the poster:
As some internet critics noted, the movie indeed feels overcutted. There's about 40 minutes more will be included in the director's cut, which I'm looking forward for.
I'd prefer to have more movies to do each story right. I can't imagine how they would fit Lord of the Clans, Warcraft 2 and Dark Portal in one movie, when not even the story of the first game was properly finished (Orcs in Stormwind...), and then WC3 and TFT. Impossible :D
I actually thought about this idea, and I think WC3 lends itself well towards a campaign per movie set-up. Think about it:
Movie 1: Thrall leaving for Kalimdor, the introduction of Uther and Jaina, the rise of the Scourge, Arthas' slow descent into madness and the movie ending with him defeating antagonist Mal'ganis before running off into the snowscape. That's a well rounded story.
Movie 2: Undead Arthas waking up and learning of the Dreadlords, figuring out his powers, slaying his father, laying waste to Lordaeron and bringing Archimonde into Azeroth.
Movie 3: Thrall's landing in Kalimdor, the meeting of the Taurens and strife with the centaur, and then finding Humans in Kalimdor. A sub-plot from this point would be Grom Hellscream and his rage, antagonizing the humans from the get-go, and stumbling upon and killing Cenarius. Eventually the viewer finds out Jaina is leading them in a scene featuring the conversation with Medivh, to tie the entire thing back to Archimonde. Grom redeems himself by killing Mannoroth at the cost of his life, at the very end.
Movie 4: The scourge invades Kalimdor in full force, with the world tree being a backdrop that gets closer every seen as Tyrande rushes to wake up Malfurion, release Illidan and rouse the Druids. Eventually Jaina and Thrall show back up as the three races unite for a climactic 30 minute showdown between them and the legion.
I can see half of these scenes in my mind already. They all lend themselves very well to a longer, 3 hour time format. Come to think of it, WarCraft 3 actually had a pretty damn good story. Blizz storywriting is often criticized, but the way the story was presented, the plot twists, and the concept of "a good villain thinks he is right, a great villain is right" that works wonders with Arthas, Grom and Cenarius all provide a damn good piece of storytelling.
I saw a lot of dramatic potential wasted, but who am I to judge. I wish it was given more time to enable more dramatic payoffs that will make the characters, world, and plot great... again.
Like for example the Draenai sacrifices, or defining the orcs and cutting a clear hard line between the masses and Durotan.
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Exactly. One of the reasons I want as many big movies as possible is because the campaigns are mostly independent from one another. The overarching stories are connected but you rarely see anyone except for some of the main characters in multiple campaigns.
If they decide to condense it I can see Artha's story (Humans and Undead) be one movie about chasing off orcs, confronting the plague, falling to it and then do all sorts of evil stuff as a Death Knight (like Anakin Skywalker).
Then another movie about the orcs landing in Kalimdor, allying with Tauren and Night Elves and the rest of the humans to protect against the Undead.
And then, just to have a trilogy Frozen Throne gets its own movie with Illidan being weird :D
I hope they set it up right. Don't rush it with 1-2 movies. It doesn't have to be like 20 Marvel films that tie-in with the Avengers, but something like Harry Potter would be nice. Alternatively here is a condensed messy version:
WarCraft II (Stormwind destroyed, escape to Lordaeron, orcs defeated by alliance and rounded up in encampments, scenes with Thrall and how he is abused, Gul'dan sails to NORTHREND to search for the tomb of sargeras, becomes the Lich King, no ner'zhul or opening of portals on draenor, Thrall flees)
WarCraft III (Thrall find the Frostwolves and Doomhammer, chased by the Alliance and because of the Prophet's warning they flee to Kalimdor, have trouble with the locals (nightelves and tauren), meanwhile Artha's investigates the scourge and gets corrupted, kills his father, THEN follows Mal'Ganis to Northrend, kills him and becomes one with the Lich King. He tries to invade Kalimdor but is defeated by orcs, tauren, Night Elves and Lordaeron survivors. Illidan sails to Northrend to defeat Arthas alone but gets killed. NO BURNING LEGION involved, but they do exist in the background)
These movies would be great, but they wouldn't be for fans. What we want is:
2016: WarCraft: The Beginning
2018: WarCraft: Tides of Darkness
2019: WarCraft: Beyond the Dark Portal
2021: WarCraft: Lord of the Clans/Exodus of the Horde
2022: WarCraft: The Scourge of Lordaeron
2023: WarCraft: Path of the Damned
2024: WarCraft: The Invasion of Kalimdor
2025: WarCraft: Eternity's End
2027: WarCraft: Terror of the Tides
2028: WarCraft: Curse of the Blood Elves
2029: WarCraft: Legacy of the Damned
2030: WarCraft: Wrath of the Lich King (skip Burning Crusade, and stop with WC movies after WotLK^^)
For a movie based on a video game, it was awesome. Stuff like Hitman and Ratchet and Clank just didn't hit the right spot with me but WC did. 4/5 only because I felt the plot was a little too standard for a fantasy-type movie
i'm not realy a big fan of dramatic plot twists. I kinda enjoy even pretty straight-forward predictable script. I think this is not the type of movie wich depends on it too much. The point is to watch epic graphic novel on a big screen.
The way Garona 'turns good' is absolutely unbelievable in the movie, even if it's obvious they really tried to make it a gradual explainable thing. We're seeing her go from being an Orc/siding mostly with Orcs to becoming a staunch protector of King Llane in a timespan of seemingly a week or so.
I agree with this 100%. This was the major issue with scenario. They cut too much from Garona character, the premiss of siding with humans was absolutely necessary in my opinion.
Also the medivh corruption theme felt realy lacking and left a lot of questions for those who aren't familiar with wc lore.
Two things i was annoyed by: Llane having to tell Garona to kill him. She should have seen that herself ajd killed him witout saying anything. No destruction of stormwind. felt like the movue ended before it should have. afraid they wont do it in wc2 and noone will sail to lordaeron
so if anyone who already watched it wanna hang out here share your thoughts please :D
I personaly enjoyed movie alot, but the diversity of magic shown in cgi feels somewhat lacking, especialy after i saw so many interviews with director who claimed this movie to be the most advanced in special effects department. I expected more diverse color palette for spells and something interesting, like almost trying to implement gameplay logic of spells into movie scene. This is what Lord of the Rings was lacking in my opinion (gandalf with flashlight from his staff = lame) and what i realy expected from Warcraft. (i mean, 4 years of filming, c'mon)
Also i kind of felt the smell of plastic through the screen from footman's costumes. I think they cut the production cost and decided to not use post processing for them?
Other than that i enjoyed the movie, I'm glad they decided to take the original game story instead of WOW. The storyline feels acceptable, not some random rudimentary element that scenarists tried to attach in excuse for battle scenes.
They certainly spent a lot of money and time on Durotan, i just like that character design and the amount of details in his face expressions.
I don't claim my rating to be meaningful for anyone but let me give it 8.5/10 score :D
feel free to post your opinions if anyone still alive on this site XD
love it!
This is my 2nd favorite movie of this year thus far. The first one (it was just released first) was Batman vs Superman (soundtrack and how well it's directed left marvel far behind in my opinion).
Well i want to argue about 100m$+ cost. I think it is not that much for this franchise, it's kind of surprising actualy, because i saw some films (even Avatar, which is utter TRASH in my opinion) with 200-300m$+ production cost.
I think it may be because such films have explosion scenes, massive car crashes and US navy forces :D, while warcraft expences was mostly at cgi and decorations that they even didn't blow up multiple times :D
I'm pretty sure what the director was talking about here was Karazhan and Medivh, but really primarily the Orcs. I have to say they looked amazing in every sense of it.
Spoilers below
The movie wasn't the cheap popcorn flick I expected it to be, but it wasn't great either. It's a nice addition to the universe for fans of WarCraft, but I can imagine that those not into it already just spent a lot of time being confused or finding the story somewhat lame. The way Garona 'turns good' is absolutely unbelievable in the movie, even if it's obvious they really tried to make it a gradual explainable thing. We're seeing her go from being an Orc/siding mostly with Orcs to becoming a staunch protector of King Llane in a timespan of seemingly a week or so. Had I not known there was some more behind that in the universe, I would've thought this was an exceptionally weak plotline.
That said, I thought the storyline was okay, or at least better than average. It takes a couple of somewhat unsuspected turns, and in a world so saturated with stories that's a decent achievement. It's not a Game of Thrones level plot, but it's 'okay'.
What I am excited about, though, is the second war. I'd absolutely love to see one or two movies depicting the events of Tides of War and Beyond the Dark Portal, with Khadgar, Alleria and the likes going through to close it on Draenor. I mean: I'd also love four movies depicting the campaigns from Reign of Chaos, but Tides of War seems like an actual possibility.
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Yea but in next part it can be like "few years forward"...to show adult Thrall, maybe arthas as the director said in preview.
Idk...let's be suprised in near future.
@CybrosX: Go
Yup, yup. What I'm hoping for would be a third or even fourth movie. It won't be the next one. That said, Thrall's time in Durnholde Keep and the story of how he got rid of the corruption of Gul'dan wouldn't make for a bad movie either.
What I liked in this movie relatively to the LotR is that it's more fantasy stylized, brighter visually and lighter emotionally. LotR director wanted to show reality, while Warcraft creators wanted to show fiction world without any rational or aesthetics limits. So, It's closer to a cartoon, but only visually and emotionally, in the same time the level of details of lanscapes and costumes is incredible.
Fun thing I noticed: magic in Star Wars has no visuals (at least in the classic series), like when Darth Wader chokes the guy, or when they get stuff the telekinesis way - and it looks still convincing, though rather abstract. They relied more on the atmosphere. Oppositely magic visualization in Warcraft performed on a pretty high level, like in games, but movie-better. And therefore it allows to "feel" the magic synaesthetically in most of the senses, like a complex power. Somehow it's pretty entertaining.
Other cgi is a good technical achievement. All those monsters made so noticably better than LotR at graphics level, but slightly miss actor play (Gollum is stil unbeaten), but it simply allows us to forget that it's all graphics and just enjoy the story.
Though, a couple of times it felt a bit nooby, for example lightning when orcs floated in the portal - that looked like "we're doing stuff in a studio, let's add more light on that cheek for more realism!", also at one point in a forest light was so unrealistic, so again I thought about studio routines and electric like sources behind cameras. But those were only two small scenes, the rest has high quality.
So, visually this movie is a masterpiece, really strong grade of fantasyness, it simply teleports us in a sweet colorful dreamworld of magic.
The story is ok, but not extremely good, unfortunately. It's not as bad as sc2 stories. But I could compare it to another fantasy movie, Thor2 - that movie had some nice plot twists, and Warcraft has none. What happened to the Medivh was too simple and artificial. But the script fits some basic dramatic reqiremements, so it's fun to watch, interesting to follow the story, and characters are enjoyable. Even moderate pathos scenes forced me to feel compassion and inspiration kind of emotions.
What I personally enjoyed is that Lothar in mimics looked like an old soviet comedy actor, I even created a more precise version of the poster:
As some internet critics noted, the movie indeed feels overcutted. There's about 40 minutes more will be included in the director's cut, which I'm looking forward for.
I wanna watch it, but everyone else was "meh" about it so we ended up watching Ninja Turtles instead.
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Pfff. They want tell us Arthas story, idk if in next part or in third, but he said soon :D
I'd prefer to have more movies to do each story right. I can't imagine how they would fit Lord of the Clans, Warcraft 2 and Dark Portal in one movie, when not even the story of the first game was properly finished (Orcs in Stormwind...), and then WC3 and TFT. Impossible :D
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I actually thought about this idea, and I think WC3 lends itself well towards a campaign per movie set-up. Think about it:
Movie 1: Thrall leaving for Kalimdor, the introduction of Uther and Jaina, the rise of the Scourge, Arthas' slow descent into madness and the movie ending with him defeating antagonist Mal'ganis before running off into the snowscape. That's a well rounded story.
Movie 2: Undead Arthas waking up and learning of the Dreadlords, figuring out his powers, slaying his father, laying waste to Lordaeron and bringing Archimonde into Azeroth.
Movie 3: Thrall's landing in Kalimdor, the meeting of the Taurens and strife with the centaur, and then finding Humans in Kalimdor. A sub-plot from this point would be Grom Hellscream and his rage, antagonizing the humans from the get-go, and stumbling upon and killing Cenarius. Eventually the viewer finds out Jaina is leading them in a scene featuring the conversation with Medivh, to tie the entire thing back to Archimonde. Grom redeems himself by killing Mannoroth at the cost of his life, at the very end.
Movie 4: The scourge invades Kalimdor in full force, with the world tree being a backdrop that gets closer every seen as Tyrande rushes to wake up Malfurion, release Illidan and rouse the Druids. Eventually Jaina and Thrall show back up as the three races unite for a climactic 30 minute showdown between them and the legion.
I can see half of these scenes in my mind already. They all lend themselves very well to a longer, 3 hour time format. Come to think of it, WarCraft 3 actually had a pretty damn good story. Blizz storywriting is often criticized, but the way the story was presented, the plot twists, and the concept of "a good villain thinks he is right, a great villain is right" that works wonders with Arthas, Grom and Cenarius all provide a damn good piece of storytelling.
I saw a lot of dramatic potential wasted, but who am I to judge. I wish it was given more time to enable more dramatic payoffs that will make the characters, world, and plot great... again.
Like for example the Draenai sacrifices, or defining the orcs and cutting a clear hard line between the masses and Durotan.
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
Exactly. One of the reasons I want as many big movies as possible is because the campaigns are mostly independent from one another. The overarching stories are connected but you rarely see anyone except for some of the main characters in multiple campaigns.
If they decide to condense it I can see Artha's story (Humans and Undead) be one movie about chasing off orcs, confronting the plague, falling to it and then do all sorts of evil stuff as a Death Knight (like Anakin Skywalker).
Then another movie about the orcs landing in Kalimdor, allying with Tauren and Night Elves and the rest of the humans to protect against the Undead.
And then, just to have a trilogy Frozen Throne gets its own movie with Illidan being weird :D
I hope they set it up right. Don't rush it with 1-2 movies. It doesn't have to be like 20 Marvel films that tie-in with the Avengers, but something like Harry Potter would be nice. Alternatively here is a condensed messy version:
WarCraft II (Stormwind destroyed, escape to Lordaeron, orcs defeated by alliance and rounded up in encampments, scenes with Thrall and how he is abused, Gul'dan sails to NORTHREND to search for the tomb of sargeras, becomes the Lich King, no ner'zhul or opening of portals on draenor, Thrall flees)
WarCraft III (Thrall find the Frostwolves and Doomhammer, chased by the Alliance and because of the Prophet's warning they flee to Kalimdor, have trouble with the locals (nightelves and tauren), meanwhile Artha's investigates the scourge and gets corrupted, kills his father, THEN follows Mal'Ganis to Northrend, kills him and becomes one with the Lich King. He tries to invade Kalimdor but is defeated by orcs, tauren, Night Elves and Lordaeron survivors. Illidan sails to Northrend to defeat Arthas alone but gets killed. NO BURNING LEGION involved, but they do exist in the background)
These movies would be great, but they wouldn't be for fans. What we want is:
2016: WarCraft: The Beginning
2018: WarCraft: Tides of Darkness
2019: WarCraft: Beyond the Dark Portal
2021: WarCraft: Lord of the Clans/Exodus of the Horde
2022: WarCraft: The Scourge of Lordaeron
2023: WarCraft: Path of the Damned
2024: WarCraft: The Invasion of Kalimdor
2025: WarCraft: Eternity's End
2027: WarCraft: Terror of the Tides
2028: WarCraft: Curse of the Blood Elves
2029: WarCraft: Legacy of the Damned
2030: WarCraft: Wrath of the Lich King (skip Burning Crusade, and stop with WC movies after WotLK^^)
For a movie based on a video game, it was awesome. Stuff like Hitman and Ratchet and Clank just didn't hit the right spot with me but WC did. 4/5 only because I felt the plot was a little too standard for a fantasy-type movie
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i'm not realy a big fan of dramatic plot twists. I kinda enjoy even pretty straight-forward predictable script. I think this is not the type of movie wich depends on it too much. The point is to watch epic graphic novel on a big screen.
I agree with this 100%. This was the major issue with scenario. They cut too much from Garona character, the premiss of siding with humans was absolutely necessary in my opinion.
Also the medivh corruption theme felt realy lacking and left a lot of questions for those who aren't familiar with wc lore.
Two things i was annoyed by: Llane having to tell Garona to kill him. She should have seen that herself ajd killed him witout saying anything. No destruction of stormwind. felt like the movue ended before it should have. afraid they wont do it in wc2 and noone will sail to lordaeron
Yeah, how did Llane know Gorona killing her would put the Horde under her banner? Imma watch it again when DVD comes around.
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
She had told him that, and he told her that she told him right before he told her to kill him.
The roundness of it all...
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
Great movie. Highly recommend!
10 / 10