Why are all of you still fighting over this... ALL of you not one....
While some where worse then others, This stupidity has done NOTHING but hurt the community.... Several people have come forward and while that stupid thread was up they didnt want to post anything here, because the idiocy would flood over onto another thread...
Oh and BTW... my trolling was attempts to get the thread closed, before someones feelings got hurt (like all that were involved are now...)... Hence why Every troll I did was to change the subject...
This is stupid, i figured that mapping inside a complex system would equal an intelligent and Semi Adult community... Its too much. and im not calling any one person out, but Im not leaving any one person out either...
Despite what all of you might think, it has gotten way out of hand. You guys are still fighting... STILL!!!, think about that for a minute....
incase you havent noticed I am quite annoyed by this at this point... because we are mappers if your here for drama you shouldnt be here at all...
Fact: Your religion supports rape, murder, and slavery, just as your god intended.
This is where I threaten you and your family with all the deeds you say I supposedly support.... but I'm the one who would be reprimanded..... makes no sense.
Your trash kid. Do something productive.
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Thanks for saving us from the flames! But why a TEMP ban for mister Pastafarian over there?
Reasons for FDFederation
1.Continual and intentional insult/defamation and attack on other user`s beliefs and/or character(Soulcarverr in particular).
2.Inciting "flame wars"
3.Repeated defiance to adhere to moderators warnings(Last one being from Mozared).
You could say they both got each other (temp)banned.
Ive called Taintedwisp out in the past, and for the most part his replies were harmless.
You called him out once somewhere on page 40, ignoring all the insults & homophobia he was spewing the entire thread. And not necessarily for altruistic reasons, but the fact that he was making your side of the debate look like bigots & homophobes. Why do you deserve credit for that? It's insulting that it took that long for someone to finally step up. The worst part is that you're literally the only guy I remember who even said anything.
Now I hate dredging up old posts, but every other theist literally said nothing about the following:
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If you said so to my face Id make you eat dirt. Just saying.
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oh no because no one has ever met a detrimental homosexual? Actually they are everywhere, they are at least 1: 5 people. And its getting worse.
Things i have noticed about homosexuals.
the Women are not clean
and the men are quick to hit women.
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Other then your epeening about religion being fake......
Did Santa clause never visit you?
Or were your parents boring Atheists with ginormous sticks up there asses as well.
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such as I believe your a tool for wasting your time.....
on the other hand I feel my time is much better focusing my trolling on you because I feel that it is needed......
if your an atheist then be godless sinner...
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Marriage inst a right..... its a benefit to help married couples raise a proper family....
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actually what gay people want isnt the marriage, its the tax cuts, its nothing but greed....
And its sick and demeaning.. to be honest, And now gays have made it illegal to attend Gay Conversion Therapy in CA for minors, meaning that if the parents decide or if the kids want it, that help is gone.
Evil Spreads it never stays still.
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because if you imposed that kinda shit on me.... i have the balls to pick up a fire arm and use it.
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Religion belongs in the public sector because the public is religious.
All of this is apparently a-ok, and so is every other wrong perpetrated by religion. If I don't get offended by threats of violence, and being called an idiot/moron, then what right do other people have to get offended by funny religious pictures/videos? It takes a really strange sense of entitlement to look at that thread and get offended only by the nonbelievers. The religious right has way too much power. They've contrived to make it impossible to criticize them without being "arrogant" or "offensive". And that's ultimately the problem with religion threads.
The fact that you never called him out on his behavior(As Eviyn did) shows a lack of neutrality from your side(Which does not help either).
True, and I guess that's one of my failings. If I was smarter, I'd have not participated in the thread at all. I can't simply sit by and let homophobia & ignorance remain unchallenged. The difference between FD & taintedwisp is that FD's offenses are transient. But Taintedwisp is going to go out there in the real world and support charities which fight against equal rights for gays, and he's going to vote for christian leaders that will support this stance and put it into actual law. FD on the other hand hurts your feelings for a few minutes and then you get over it & leave the thread. Big frickin deal, tainted could be accused of the same exact thing. You didn't see me complaining when he called me an idiot & moron multiple times.
I feel that somebody needs to challenge the religious right, at least on an internet forum, when they try to impose their will on the public sector by:
1) Telling gays they can't marry. One religious organization spent 15 million denying equal rights to gays.
2) Telling people that they can't get an abortion.
3) Telling science teachers to teach intelligent design in schools.
4) Promoting Christianity in the public domain at the expense of other religions.
Theist should be asking themselves why this doesn't bother them as much as someone criticizing their beliefs. And for people that somehow know that god exists, whilst never providing the proof, it does start to get irritating. After getting little answers and nothing but dodging, I can understand why FD would be irritated. TLBarrin was also irritated for this reason. I felt that FD's offenses were nothing compared to taintedwisp & soulcarver's, who have demonstrated an equal if not larger amount of trolling & disrespect all thread long, yet were never called out for it. Apart from those two guys who give no respect & deserve none, I really don't have anything against religious people in general. What went on in that thread is going to stay in that thread like it never happened. I apologize for any disrespect I might have shown. As I said in the thread, I only use it as a rhetorical tactic for when logic fails.
“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.”
You also went of course posting videos. You wouldn`t open a video link involving Christianity in someway or such, then why should we be expected to open a link of some random dumbass thinking his opinion of "No God" is both funny and of any importance?. Thats not argumentative debating.
FYI, if you're talking about the very , it's totally harmless (except for maybe scientologists). He doesn't even talk about Christianity. In fact, I was just trying to lighten the mood.
See? Told you :) There has got to be a vent, otherwise it will spill out to other parts of the forums OR (which is more fun for me at least ;) ) the banhammer will fall more often.
For a quick and simple answer to that whole post Gradius;
1. Wisp wasn't directly threatening others like Soulcarver was. He often says stupid, bigoty and even ridiculously racist things as well, but he never directs those things against specific posters, nor does he threaten them with violence.
2. Wisp wasn't ignoring warnings and such the way FD was. Opinionwise I agree with a lot of what he says, but there's a time to let go.
We're considering removing the last two pages or such though, so we can actually have a discussion on the subject at hand.
HAHAHA, Usually mine are just misphrased as well, im really not that hateful, lol, but let the record show that I just suck at phrasing things in the correct way haha.
Also It would be best if the past 2 pages were deleted so we could get back on topic, because so far the onlything these past 2 pages have shown is that we cant have a debate... and that the community is not mature enough for it.
Of course we religious people have too much power. There are too many of us.
But on the serious side, why are stupidly ignorant religious people becoming the face of religions? Not all of us believe that crap about gays not being able to be gay (same with a bunch of other crap).
Dont throw this thread off any further, Imma explain real quick why the people you think are ruining religion are actually the right ones... But after this if you wish to continue it please Pvt message me.
Because either you believe all or none, Just because something is now popular Example: Gays
Doesnt mean that our beliefs should change for it... Otherwise we would throw in every dumb-ass actor in the Jesus section... Theres no point in believing if your not going to believe in all of it.
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@EternalWraith: Go
Why are all of you still fighting over this... ALL of you not one....
While some where worse then others, This stupidity has done NOTHING but hurt the community.... Several people have come forward and while that stupid thread was up they didnt want to post anything here, because the idiocy would flood over onto another thread...
Oh and BTW... my trolling was attempts to get the thread closed, before someones feelings got hurt (like all that were involved are now...)... Hence why Every troll I did was to change the subject...
This is stupid, i figured that mapping inside a complex system would equal an intelligent and Semi Adult community... Its too much. and im not calling any one person out, but Im not leaving any one person out either...
Despite what all of you might think, it has gotten way out of hand. You guys are still fighting... STILL!!!, think about that for a minute....
incase you havent noticed I am quite annoyed by this at this point... because we are mappers if your here for drama you shouldnt be here at all...
They were literally telling me what my beliefs mean..... And yeah that's insulting...
I spose you let people walk all over you..... that's your own problem not mine.
Grow a pair.
Henceforth, this type of thread will be referred to as "Mapsterbates".
@SouLCarveRR: Go
Fact: Your religion supports rape, murder, and slavery, just as your god intended.
@EternalWraith: Go
That's how you know the last supper painting and all the other religious paintings are superstitious nonsense.
This is where I threaten you and your family with all the deeds you say I supposedly support.... but I'm the one who would be reprimanded..... makes no sense.
Your trash kid. Do something productive.
@SouLCarveRR: Go
I'll say it again, "Your religion supports rape, murder, and slavery, just as your god intended."
So like... my pastor never once condoned such actions.... so where do you get off saying this to me?
The way you make it sound is that we all actively condone such actions..... how ignorant are you?
I know what my beliefs entail better then some piece of trash such as you.
Ohh yeah, nothing can stop the flame war :)
They both received a temp ban. Mozared had given a final warning.
Thanks for saving us from the flames! But why a TEMP ban for mister Pastafarian over there?
Reasons for FDFederation
1.Continual and intentional insult/defamation and attack on other user`s beliefs and/or character(Soulcarverr in particular).
2.Inciting "flame wars"
3.Repeated defiance to adhere to moderators warnings(Last one being from Mozared).
You could say they both got each other (temp)banned.
You called him out once somewhere on page 40, ignoring all the insults & homophobia he was spewing the entire thread. And not necessarily for altruistic reasons, but the fact that he was making your side of the debate look like bigots & homophobes. Why do you deserve credit for that? It's insulting that it took that long for someone to finally step up. The worst part is that you're literally the only guy I remember who even said anything.
Now I hate dredging up old posts, but every other theist literally said nothing about the following:
All of this is apparently a-ok, and so is every other wrong perpetrated by religion. If I don't get offended by threats of violence, and being called an idiot/moron, then what right do other people have to get offended by funny religious pictures/videos? It takes a really strange sense of entitlement to look at that thread and get offended only by the nonbelievers. The religious right has way too much power. They've contrived to make it impossible to criticize them without being "arrogant" or "offensive". And that's ultimately the problem with religion threads.
True, and I guess that's one of my failings. If I was smarter, I'd have not participated in the thread at all. I can't simply sit by and let homophobia & ignorance remain unchallenged. The difference between FD & taintedwisp is that FD's offenses are transient. But Taintedwisp is going to go out there in the real world and support charities which fight against equal rights for gays, and he's going to vote for christian leaders that will support this stance and put it into actual law. FD on the other hand hurts your feelings for a few minutes and then you get over it & leave the thread. Big frickin deal, tainted could be accused of the same exact thing. You didn't see me complaining when he called me an idiot & moron multiple times.
I feel that somebody needs to challenge the religious right, at least on an internet forum, when they try to impose their will on the public sector by:
1) Telling gays they can't marry. One religious organization spent 15 million denying equal rights to gays.
2) Telling people that they can't get an abortion.
3) Telling science teachers to teach intelligent design in schools.
4) Promoting Christianity in the public domain at the expense of other religions.
Theist should be asking themselves why this doesn't bother them as much as someone criticizing their beliefs. And for people that somehow know that god exists, whilst never providing the proof, it does start to get irritating. After getting little answers and nothing but dodging, I can understand why FD would be irritated. TLBarrin was also irritated for this reason. I felt that FD's offenses were nothing compared to taintedwisp & soulcarver's, who have demonstrated an equal if not larger amount of trolling & disrespect all thread long, yet were never called out for it. Apart from those two guys who give no respect & deserve none, I really don't have anything against religious people in general. What went on in that thread is going to stay in that thread like it never happened. I apologize for any disrespect I might have shown. As I said in the thread, I only use it as a rhetorical tactic for when logic fails.
“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.”
― Thomas Jefferson
FYI, if you're talking about the very , it's totally harmless (except for maybe scientologists). He doesn't even talk about Christianity. In fact, I was just trying to lighten the mood.
@Gradius12: Go
Can we get a ban on you? The thread was locked, and continuing on another thread is an obvious no...
Oh and I dont have to defend myself to idiots who bicker for 1400 post...
See? Told you :) There has got to be a vent, otherwise it will spill out to other parts of the forums OR (which is more fun for me at least ;) ) the banhammer will fall more often.
@Gradius12: Go
For a quick and simple answer to that whole post Gradius;
1. Wisp wasn't directly threatening others like Soulcarver was. He often says stupid, bigoty and even ridiculously racist things as well, but he never directs those things against specific posters, nor does he threaten them with violence.
2. Wisp wasn't ignoring warnings and such the way FD was. Opinionwise I agree with a lot of what he says, but there's a time to let go.
We're considering removing the last two pages or such though, so we can actually have a discussion on the subject at hand.
@Mozared: Go
HAHAHA, Usually mine are just misphrased as well, im really not that hateful, lol, but let the record show that I just suck at phrasing things in the correct way haha.
Also It would be best if the past 2 pages were deleted so we could get back on topic, because so far the onlything these past 2 pages have shown is that we cant have a debate... and that the community is not mature enough for it.
Well this thread got very stupid, very fast. Guess you have your answer at least.
You're a genious :D
@Gradius12: Go
Of course we religious people have too much power. There are too many of us.
But on the serious side, why are stupidly ignorant religious people becoming the face of religions? Not all of us believe that crap about gays not being able to be gay (same with a bunch of other crap).
@SGTMeowmers9: Go
Dont throw this thread off any further, Imma explain real quick why the people you think are ruining religion are actually the right ones... But after this if you wish to continue it please Pvt message me.
Because either you believe all or none, Just because something is now popular Example: Gays
Doesnt mean that our beliefs should change for it... Otherwise we would throw in every dumb-ass actor in the Jesus section... Theres no point in believing if your not going to believe in all of it.