I think we need to first address the glaring errors, rearrange the poorly designed home page and restore the features that were inexplicably removed before we start compiling a "wouldn't it be cool if" wish list.
It's very likely that only a select few changes/updates will be made from this point (how many YEARS did it take to get to this update?), so it's important that we prioritize the most important things and don't try to tell FlameGoat to do 100 small, unweighted preferential changes. If FlameGoat delivers some long laundry list to whatever developer is managing all these Curse sites, it's highly probably he'll just pick the easiest tweaks and fixes, do those, and then expect us to be happy for another 6 years.
So FlameGoat, before you lock this topic or whatever, let's make sure we have a clear vision of THE MOST IMPORTANT changes, things we all uniformly agree need to be changed (like the front page layout), and don't just tally long list of every user's recommendations.
If I were to offer my two cents on the site changes, this would be it.
I was out of the country and with no access to a computer to properly read a - then 7 pages long and now a 11 pages long - topic. It wasn't only after QueenGambit PM'd me (along with some others with the letter "x" on their name) asking for feedback on the new upgraded that I realised this site had changed.
As some of you may know, I was part of the moderation team (and I think I still am, I don't recall officially giving up my powers) and I think I was the most aggresively-against-curse wayback then until a bunch us just decided "why should we care about a site that now even the owners profitting from it do?" and just decided to stop bothering us with it.
I remember passively aggresive taking actions / complains against curse right until someone known as kaelten came up and told me to stop doing such actions.
I have a point writing all this so bear with me. Back then SC2Mapster was a forgotten site, people started complaining and were not heard, then some administrators came promising a complete overhaul coming soon (TM) a la blizzard style and nothing happened. People got excited at first and then disappointed and then back to complaining. This was mere 2 months after SC2Mapster was founded, the user database was of no more than 25 active people (a lot of registered members, though) and I still can recall many of their names. SC2 had not even launched and Sixen had already asked me if I wanted to help him out with the moderation of the site. I being one of the very first people making mods when all we had was the beta version with no editor but armed with MPQviewers we extracted the files, modded the shit out of them and found a way to enable directory hotlinking so SC2 read our files and managed to make the very first basic mods. Good times.
Back to complaining, some other administrators came again, new fresh faces, some we knew, some we did not, but still hopes were up again. We got excited. We then got disappointed. Then back to complaining. To make this story short repeat this two times a year for every year of sc2mapster's existence. That is how much bullshit we've had to take.
Don't get me wrong, it makes me happy that we have finally seen some sort of upgrade. Having only read this topic I can already see the things that are wrong with the site - tech wise - I am even willing to give it a try again, help out, help out even more if I get my powers back again and even make a full report of the site (for which I'll need a week) but the point of this post was to adress, personally, to you QueenGambit, MrFlamegoat or any other curse-paid administrator reading this.
What are your intentions with this site?
Do you 1. mean only to keep profitting from it and an update was required and/or forced because you are upgrading your whole cursesite platform alltogether? or do you 2. Want a really functional site that promotes starcraft II, its content and/or developer community and consequently profitting from it even more than nowso?
If you only mean option 1. Then carry on. The site's alright, we appreciate the update and even if right now people are complaining and suggesting and apparently being actively doing so I promise to you than in 3 weeks this will all be gone and we'll be doing our own bussines yet again, like we have done so many times in the past. We'll be disappointed but understand yet again that we shouldn't expect anything from curse and carry on with ourselves. Thank you for the upgraded, we appreciate it and you can leave now. Thanks.
BUT if you mean option 2. this brings me to my little piece of history in my post.
If you mean option 2 I urge you, implore you, beg you to listen out and carry on to solve every single one of the suggestions your very own community users have made. I've read them. All of them. All 11 pages of them. I even started using the nifty multi-quote function quoting every piece of logical suggestion and/or request and quoted every piece of excuse or attempt of rationalization as to why you can't or simply won't implement them. I naively started doing so and stopped at page 8 when I realised I had more than 70 quotes and while I have seen at least some replies and even some, although very little, solutions I have seen the most excuses and or denials.
Your community isn't even asking for much. I too am a web developer and programmer so I know a bit, probably not as much as you, but I know a bit to know it's not difficult to do the things we are asking. I know and I get that you want all your sites to run on the same platform with the same standards, believe me, I am an architect by profession and I know what it is to be required to implement an standard. But just because one system must implement one standard doesn't mean that another system cannot follow that same standard and still be a whole different system with its own set of rules and not some arbitrary rules imposed by a system unrelated to it. The analogy here being that the websites are systems and the standard is your own set of rules on your curse platform.
I know that some things won't be technically possible but others, that would highly create a new interest on this community and would consequently promote a more engaging experience will. I will not go one by one on every suggestion or request here made. That would be stupid and is not my job, it's yours. I will however DO write my full report. One of my very own that will most likely include all that has already been said. but I think that if you really want option 2 you should take everything suggested so far and you will be creating a better community, a better site a whole new level of SCII engagement and consequently profitting even more than if you just did option 1.
I'm not sure how bad the changes to this site were, as i really don't use it enough.. but has any of you considered having the community migrate to another site? I don't really mean to promote or suggest, but since i do know a solid-ish alternative that IS SC2 related, i just gotta ask .u.
I'm pretty sure i'm gonna insult someone, so if someone is insulted, then don't reply
Funny how nice and pr oriented you remain xcorbo..
(emote fail on spick and spam new mapster...)
i disagree with how nice you are.. EVERYTHING we asked for is ez peezy (saying it would be hard blablabla bs is counter productive)
(and would be implementable in a forth-nite, but hey* i'm old what do i know...)
would benefit curse in the long run.
What is VERY counter productive is telling people like me or others that we should reconsider the way we think/react to what is shown as an improvement.
An improvement for curse, swell.. kappa
of that i'm sure...
.. as for if it is an improvement to the arcade or the community.. no one has shown me the light or made me eat the magic bean required to swallow the soup that is mapster right now and say it is an
the front page mainly (wow that soup tastes like metal and acid reflux or is it just my reaction to it?)
the idea that the site was changed BUT there won't be any change henceforth .. NO NEW FEATURES.. are you kidding us? curse? "ou ou" that 's mission uncontrollable and wasted time mission critical dudes!!
hope you do get somewhere with curiousgeorges behind veiled typoes or preferably behind closed porches or something.. and you and all the other mods get "something" out of it.
Love your pasheun xcorbo <3 more power to you .. to queen maybe, to superevil, moz if he d come back.. please save my muppetstore!
As for me,
close but no no emote/cigar </3 on mapster
ps: love that quote / signature in light of the situation
My map files that I am uploading on my project pages (here and here)are supposed to be used for the MCPT (monthly community project testing) but when i try to upload them after a min I get a notification saying my map files are being rejected due to 'invalid archive'. What the heck does this mean? How do I fix it?
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Stranded on Krydon Renewed- A renewed version of Stranded on Krydon that is being constantly updated, has improved visuals, is more friendly to new players, lots more fun tweaks and much more planned to come.
I have to admit, at first it was a... surprise. The familiar structures are gone and it seems, that recent assets from certain authors are a bit harder to find... at first. The updated page now has a resemblance to Curse, which I disliked for it's unituitive presentation/interface.
But as with everything, we will get used to it in time. Still have to agree, a white background is generic and a bit unpleasant to look at, but that may be work in progress I suppose.
Without further ado, I hope this feedback helps in some way.