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He shutdown the ranking. Case closed. Dont want this turning into a futile flame war. Lets be civil. My popcorn finished too anyway:/
This thread was marked as Locked by _ForgeUser4548413.
He shutdown the ranking. Case closed. Dont want this turning into a futile flame war. Lets be civil. My popcorn finished too anyway:/
I also just wanted to add that i f*cking told your ass that i was not the only one who knew what you did with platform defense and one day people would come around. Apparently now is that day and you coming after me is just going to make you look stupid, if that alone does not make you look stupid enough then i will be more then happy to make you look worse. Everytime you say sh*t like "Oh hes just mad my map took Doodad Hunt off first page" makes me want to beat the accent out of you. Are you really that self centered to think your map was the reason for Doodad Hunt decline? Stop thinking your maps are important and accept it like the rest of us, make something unique then come talk to me.
On a more s3rius note though..
I have to agree with Bounty here. There is no 100% undeniable proof that he is responsible for what you are accusing him of. It may "seem" likely or highly probable that he is to blame, but still, no solid proof. Thus innocent until proven guilty.
Even if he is guilty. What could anyone do about it?. Nothing.
I think if you make use of banks, Knowing its vulnerable to exploits, Then you should expect someone to exploit it at some point. Its just bound to happen.
Dont be too upset or surprised about it..
My quote from bnet forums on this retards attempt @propaganda
"Also, his little trick with saying the latest hack using my words, yet if you look at how he did it he took one word per paragraph from like 4 seperate paragraphs! How is that my own words? Example "Rodrigo needs to shut the f*ck up stop blaming me for his problems". Rods definition of my own words would be "needs up me problems". Yeah because that makes sense, MY OWN WORDS would be "Rodrigo needs to shut the f*ck up stop blaming me for his problems". Picking out one word per paragraph and twisting it into a sentence that i never said is propaganda."
Are you saying I copied that map?!!?!??!?!?! Bounty, for your information, Nexus Word Wars was released about 4 days after this map was released. When this map was released, Nexus Word Wars was already 80% complete. IN NO WAY I COPIED THAT IDEA. A proof of that is that NWW was published as private days before this other typing map was released (I was doing testings). That's why the map wasn't released as a "new map."
I am not taking random words! You called me "Rod," which is a nickname just a few people use. And you are the only one who keeps saying that I abuse the popularity system, exactly what the "hacker" wrote.
http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/7/831/Capture.PNG
Who says anyone should do anything about it? The general misconception of communities today is that someone thinks if 'he' can't do anything, noone else can. Wrong. Just because you feel helpless because you can't do anything about it - doesn't mean you should generalize it and say noone can do anything about it.
I'd say Rodrigo might have two intentions with this thread: 1. To lower rep. of Bounty 2. To get more people to get Blizzard to update their system.
I agree that the first intention is kind of unnessecary, but laying out theories is never bad, as long as everyone are aware that they are just THEORIES.
@Eaglesight: Go
EagleSight, I have nothing against Bounty, although he is constantly offending me and saying that I exploit the system (platform defense). He started all of this, and I think is too much coincidence that the "hacker" says what he is always saying to me and featuring his maps. I have no intention to lower his rep. I am just very very annoyed that I'm the whole weekend fighting with a hacker that features Bounty's maps. Also, Bounty said he wants the hacker to continue.
I also want to make the problem visible. Banks are a joke. Any kid can hack the most protected bank on battle.net. You just have to copy the locked map, change what you want, and replace banks. It doesn't matter if your crypt has 10 or 100000 algorithms. But what is missing here is common sense, respect, something that Bounty is showing that he doesn't have saying that he "wants to beat my accent out of me," which is offensive.
@RodrigoAlves: Go
You forgot when i told you i expect an "oral" apology from you when it is discoverd it was/is not me. I think this counts as one of the things i've said thats offended you but hey you started this crap so put it on my tab mother fucker.
Wait, so you say people should be allowed to modify their bank files to change everything that's stored in there?
That's like saying WoW players are allowed to change their level, amount of gold and equipment like they want to.
If you do that I give WoW 2 days until the market has collapsed and a week until most people stopped playing it.
That is so very true. I hacked my first bank yesterday out of interest (and it was a well encrypted bank).
It took me 45 minutes to make a small map that can read info from the bank, decrypt them, modify them and store them again. 20 minutes of that I needed to find the friggin map on my harddrive! Opening the map took me about 15 seconds. It's a sad day when the best protection we have is a scrambled map name.
@s3rius: Go
s3rious, you are right. I'm about to disable my ranking. If Blizzard does not lock their locked maps, we can forget about storing data on Battle.net.
! New theory: Rodrigo is using his own system to blackmail Bounty! !!!!!
No s3riously(I like that Eternal :P) just remove you ranking and be happy. It won't hurt you that much I suppose...
Oh and.. making a map too hard on purpose to increase its popularity because of some weird replayability? What's wrong with that? Just do the same and you have your popularity too. And when people like to play rip-offs then let them play. Also don't see what's wrong with that.
I will make a map called "Hack-Me" where the purpose of the map is to be hacked. The map will load 5 banks, with 5 different crypts. Each crypt hacked gives +1 to the player's score. There will also be "hackings" inside the game, so that the players can join the game to try to hack. In this way, all hackers can spend their time there.
lol ;P
That is actually a pretty good idea, lol.
Anyway, remove the rankings, keep the triggers for them somewhere untill blizzard releases whatever is supposed to keep banks safe, and stop arguing (this one's directed at both bounty and rodrigo). Theres no evidence that bounty hacked the map, but bounty i dont see why you dont agree that everything about hackings point at you... I think it's more likely someone trying to frame you, cause i dont think anyone in the world is as stupid to actually hack more and get more blame on himself after the argument started... Actually, i think i just understimated stupidity again, but that person probably wouldn't know how to turn on a computer anyway, not to mention hack something...
Hope i didnt stir up another argument, otherwise im outta here. Dont feel like arguing about something where theres nothing to add...
That's it. The 5th hack attack! And this time is personal! I have to shut down my ranking before Blizzard finds the "offensive" messages on the main page of my game and decides to ban it.
hmm, this gives me the idea of making sc2mapster banlist: simple trigger which kicks all banned accounts by sc2mapster from your map. If a trusted guy make a list of bad guys accounts, I sure will add the kick to my maps:D
Cough.... it doesn't really matter if maps are "locked" (how that now would work), there will ALWAYS be a way to hack the bank-files as long as they're client-sided, as I guess you already know.
Also, Bounty... stop being such a douche.
The ranking is now oficially closed. Sorry. I hope I can reopen it one day. =/
Nope, in World of Warcraft you are allowed to modify any of your addons (something that is there to personalize the game to your liking). Now, banks are there so that users may personalize the game to their liking. Say for example, in your map the user can set the level of tips they receive during the map (beginner, expert, etc). When Blizzard came up with their banks idea, I don't think they meant for them to be used to store critical data (eg. "Map unlocks upgrades as a player plays more of the map.") or for it to be transmitted (eg. "Map maintains a ranking list.").
That's why the user should be allowed to edit their bank data. Your analogy of editing "levels, items, etc" is totally wrong. The things you mention are core game mechanics (if you want an analogy, in SC2, it is the map which should be locked). Bank files allow for personalisation (in WoW, these are the WTF files, addon files, etc. which are all editable).
This fucking guy, I remember his name, did the same thing with my Corpses map...
Staying inside the lobby blocking the starting of games. The map from first page went off to 5-6th page.
I tried to report the player, asking to do the same to other that joined the game but it seems that nothing happened.
This thing happened in the EU server but it seems that the nickname is the same :|**
The plot thickens..
Nom nom nom*
Someone pass me some salt..