First it was "Photon Cycles doesn't reference Tron", which it clearly does.
It doesnt. I havent seen Tron written anywhere in that map. Since youre going to use this against me, ill just mention it right now: I did make claims to the contrary (that Photon Cycles does mention Tron to explain gameplay). Sreg did a good job of explaining the gameplay without mentioning Tron in his announcement post, so i dont think hed have to mention Tron in the map itself.
Then it turned into "Photon Cycles copies gameplay, not content.", which it also clearly does.
Which again, it doesnt, since bike design bears no resemblance, and floor design is so minimalistic that its hard not to have some kind of resemblance when going for minimalistic visuals. The walls use the users color, yes, but they too are so minimalistic that one could argue its a gameplay feature.
Now it's "that copying gameplay and copying lore are two very different things and that Photon Cycles doesnt copy lore, since Photon Cycles doesnt need and have any", which makes an unfalsifiable claim out of lack of information.
Yes, because gameplay and lore are such loaded terms that you cant decide whether or not Photon Cycles uses Tron lore. If you werent too busy proving me an idiot you might also notice that i even mentioned Tron lore in my initial post (i used dismember then).
I hope you don't think I'm taking this too seriously. I just get kicks out of watching morons defend their bullshit.
And yet regardless of how Deaod is or isn't putting it, you're missing the point actually relevant to the discussion. That Photon Cycles drives (literally and figuratively) on its gameplay, something which has very little to do with the actual Tron movie, while a 'The Hunger Games' map released now will, especially when looking at the OP, be a map that's carried by the movie.
I wouldn't say Jademus is the most ideal person to bring up the point, but it's still valid. You'll know that if you every played a Harry Potter game, or a Lord of the Rings one.
Jademus brings up the valid point that maps abusing the popularity of a particular IP has barely ever produced good results. Others (noone on this site, but professional critics) have brought up how cash-ins typically fail, while products in other mediums produced independently can have high quality.
You and others come in and accuse Jademus of hypocrisy without addressing the point he brought up. Classic Tu Quoque. I point out how even your Tu Quoque is based on a Strawman.
You of course dont like to hear that and first use an Ad Hominem to discredit my point. Then you keep using literal meanings of words (to deny the points i brought up), inferring meaning into other words (Lightbikes is not a term exclusively used by Tron), and a good dose of insults to pander to your audience.
It doesnt. I havent seen Tron written anywhere in that map. Since youre going to use this against me, ill just mention it right now: I did make claims to the contrary (that Photon Cycles does mention Tron to explain gameplay). Sreg did a good job of explaining the gameplay without mentioning Tron in his announcement post, so i dont think hed have to mention Tron in the map itself.
Which again, it doesnt, since bike design bears no resemblance, and floor design is so minimalistic that its hard not to have some kind of resemblance when going for minimalistic visuals. The walls use the users color, yes, but they too are so minimalistic that one could argue its a gameplay feature.
Yes, because gameplay and lore are such loaded terms that you cant decide whether or not Photon Cycles uses Tron lore. If you werent too busy proving me an idiot you might also notice that i even mentioned Tron lore in my initial post (i used dismember then).
Bonus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
I can pull informal fallacies out of my ass as well. Only this one is actually relevant to what started this argument.
And yet regardless of how Deaod is or isn't putting it, you're missing the point actually relevant to the discussion. That Photon Cycles drives (literally and figuratively) on its gameplay, something which has very little to do with the actual Tron movie, while a 'The Hunger Games' map released now will, especially when looking at the OP, be a map that's carried by the movie.
I wouldn't say Jademus is the most ideal person to bring up the point, but it's still valid. You'll know that if you every played a Harry Potter game, or a Lord of the Rings one.
Okay so;
Photon Cycles does not reference Tron
Photon Cycles gameplay is not based on Tron lightbike gameplay
Got it.
Footnote: This isn't a stab at photon cycles. I honestly couldn't care less what it's based on.
I never claimed that.
Edit:
Jademus brings up the valid point that maps abusing the popularity of a particular IP has barely ever produced good results. Others (noone on this site, but professional critics) have brought up how cash-ins typically fail, while products in other mediums produced independently can have high quality.
You and others come in and accuse Jademus of hypocrisy without addressing the point he brought up. Classic Tu Quoque. I point out how even your Tu Quoque is based on a Strawman.
You of course dont like to hear that and first use an Ad Hominem to discredit my point.
Then you keep using literal meanings of words (to deny the points i brought up), inferring meaning into other words (Lightbikes is not a term exclusively used by Tron), and a good dose of insults to pander to your audience.