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  • #64

  kakalxlax Sep 20, 2010 at 21:53 UTC - 0 likes

  Man i hate really hate u, at the end, when im supposed to find the battlecruiser at the supply depot, it started spawning tons and tons of brood lords, my computer almost crashed...

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  • #63

  Photoloss May 18, 2010 at 13:10 UTC - 0 likes

  "God" is still in the editor, in case you mind.

  Missile Turrets still have the engineering bay as a requirement and can't be built (seeing as you didn't modify them I suggest you just remove them altogether)

  You can still build fusion cores.

  Banshee build time is unchanged at 60. This may be intended but it's longer than battlecruisers, and it's quite annoying having to do with 1 starport.

  The sensor tower is essentially useless, since the ghost can see that far anyway, but it doesn't really matter.

  Your cinematic sequence will look weird if the command post dies, as you don't respawn it, though I didn't test it ingame.

  The cinematic video looks good except for the notes on the left. Especially one of the red warnings, which comes from your leaderboard function I think. It also appears ingame, probably because you don't stop counting "players" beyond 15 or so (at least the error says something like that)

  Edit: There's nothing left to spend gas on except the fusion core which is a bug. maybe reintroduce the factory/starport (minus hellions and thors) or the upgrade buildings or remove the starting gas.

  Last edited May 18, 2010 by Photoloss
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  • #62

  WontonST May 17, 2010 at 22:44 UTC - 0 likes

  @photoloss
  Thank you yet again for awesome feedback.

  Tech tree's gone. I don't want to bother with something that cumbersome until the next maps.

  I put the endgame adjustments into the planning book. The team's currently working on something for the cinematics competition.

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  • #61

  Photoloss May 17, 2010 at 15:24 UTC - 0 likes

  v1.45 has "God" in the editor again.

  The new Reaper ability is a step in the right direction, but I see little use for it since you only get 24? reapers total. The only target I can think of are the rear worms, but I can kill them without. Maybe if you made the "rear worm spawn" triggers only execute if the worm is still alive, so nuking it 3 seconds earlier stops the roach attack. Of course it's always good to have, and if you get overrun/need something dead without collateral damage it will do, but for attack purposes nukes are better. Then again I can't think of anything better, so I'm fine with the suicide.

  Upgrades and remnant melee units are currently useless, you should either remove them or make them useful. It just looks "unfinished". The fact that you can replace tanks is cool though.

  You should spawn the endgame broodlords periodically. If you turtle and mine out all the resources it's pretty easy to just nuke the lot with mass Yamato (I did the corruptors too btw), and after they're gone nothing can tear down your supply depots. This doesn't add to gameplay much since you're 10 seconds max away from winning, but it removes some of the feeling of being overrun.

  Also I suggest you spawn the corruptors at the location of the left spawning pool/roach warren, so you actually flee with the cruiser. (more for cinematics/dramatic effect, gameplay is essentially over once you kill the hive)

  Edit: By the way, most of the map is awesome! Difficulty (assuming you've played it before) slacks off a bit after the rear front is stabilised, after that you mostly wait until you have enough firepower to crush the zerg, or you chip away at him. If you let the rear worms live the game becomes a lot harder since you can't mine freely, and can't just medivac through to the depot. Even if you kill them it still requires some planning to break the zerg, especially if you don't use banshees.

  Some more spore crawlers (especially on the left) would be appreciated so banshee attacks are either quick assaults or suicide waves. Still you need a large amount of them (with full energy) to make it to the hive, especially if you want to knock down the nydus network first.

  Keep up the good work! I hope the next map will be as good as this one. (or better)

  Last edited May 17, 2010 by Photoloss
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  • #60

  DerStupid May 16, 2010 at 15:02 UTC - 0 likes

  Killed every Zerg on the map but every single custom text on this map is messed up so I cant read what the other tasks are :)

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  • #59

  Photoloss May 16, 2010 at 10:47 UTC - 0 likes

  With qwert I mean the 3x5 grid on the keyboard, going from q to t to y/z to b. Q W E R T used to be the hotkeys for move, attack etc. Most abilities were on Y/Z, because that corresponds to the bottom-left slot in the command card.

  The problem with Reapers is that you want all units as close to the front wall as possible, so they shoot further. This means Reapers get stuck behind frontline tanks a lot (at least for me), the wall itself I man with Marines because they shoot air (defend tanks from mutas) and because they are expendable. Besides, reapers in bunkers get +1 range anyway, so filling up your 2 starting bunkers with the few you get gives them a greater advantage, and protects them from harm (plus their target priority goes by distance, and the bunkers are close to the supply depot, meaning they shoot stuff that's close to the wall)

  I just don't see any "special" role for reapers, for me they are high-power marines that can't stim, don't need a medivac to get around and come in limited numbers.

  And a general weakness in the Zerg layout (which allowed me to banshee-nuke in v1.2) is the lack of detection. That's why I suggested a buff to spore crawler detection range. Overseers fly to the right, leaving the left exposed to nukes and banshees. Less damage will only increase the number of banshees I need, not make it harder to blast through (unless you keep increasing the pressure forever). And you don't lose a single banshee because you still go undetected. I wouldn't change the Overseers, because that will make banshees obsolete due to lack of aa weapons.

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  • #58

  WontonST May 16, 2010 at 05:55 UTC - 0 likes

  Massive update released.

  MP pulled from download, testing features due to an important glitch.

  Map2 is still being planned :)

  @photoloss - Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Banshees are nerfed, objectives are more clear ala ping. Read more on changelog. What do you mean by hotkeys to qwert? I like the entire left of the keyboard for hotkeys.

  I don't really think reapers need a buff. They deal like 15 dmg x2 which is 30 damage. That's significantly higher than the marine, AND they can easily jump up the cliff for defending the base.

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  • #57

  Photoloss May 15, 2010 at 18:28 UTC - 0 likes

  You forgot to ping the Starport in the end. I literally quit with the huge BC in my base getting swarmed because I had no idea how I should win. (the text is all bugged up for me)

  Banshees spawn badly damaged, you forgot to increase their starting life.

  Please buff the Reapers, they're close to useless (well they do supporting damage but nothing the same amount of Marines couldn't do)

  And: six Banshees that's what it took me to win. 4 would have done. I suggest you increase spore crawler detection radius to 11 (same range as Banshees) and reduce Banshee damage to 30 or so (per rocket). Yamato is fun now, if you can keep your cruisers alive.

  And since Blizz was so nice as to screw us all, please set the hotkeys to qwert again, especially build commands, siege mode and stimpacks. (and cloak)

  Plus a minor thing, the Ghost Academy always gets damaged in the cave assault, and costs gas to repair, leaving you 1 gas short of lvl3 upgrades. I know it's my fault for having my SCVs on autorepair, but it's annoying nonetheless.

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  • #56

  WontonST May 15, 2010 at 06:52 UTC - 0 likes

  Onekrana, could you post a replay of you beating the game in the fastest possible time? I'm planning on getting a new video.

  And yes, that god unit is going to need to get removed immediately :O

  wontonswordmasproductions@gmail.com

  EDIT: @xenrathe - Thank you for pointing that out. Will patch this tomorrow first thing.

  Last edited May 15, 2010 by WontonST
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  • #55

  xenrathe May 15, 2010 at 01:44 UTC - 0 likes

  I'd just like to point out that keep Colonel Chen alive is not a bonus objective because without him you can't actually win the map...

  Last edited May 15, 2010 by xenrathe