I'd rather finish the first one, but okay.
Get 3d models and then I will help with everything else.
Get me 3d assets to use and I'll help with ANYTHING!!! w00t 3d models!
Dear Mapsters,
I decided to develop more employable skills then mapmaking.
Good Luck mapsters I hope to return to mapping next summer!
Sincerely, GRENeggsNham
Also, I think it should be mentioned that trigger people will have some work later on once the race is complete, since we're leaving them out at the moment. We'll probably need an AI ;)
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Brainstormer here!
Reposting some old ideas (need work, they are not good enough):
Quote from Lonami: GoI made concepts for many new races (like aqir and troll empires) back in W3, but with SC2, I have concepts for only one so far: robotic army of doom [PH name].
Basically, it's a race of machines. People that evolved into machines or machines that went Skynet, I don't care. Machines. Angry machines. They want to steal your cookies. They're evil. Very. Prepare for a HUGE wall of text:
Some core concepts for the race:
No workers: the buildings themselves harvest and stuff
Buildings are units: they stay idle when training units or researching
Supply unit is the harvester: the "depots" have legs, and place themselves over the minerals/gas, and don't need to return to base for anything. They only need a command building stationed near them.
Production: to produce units, the buildings need to be near "depots". The depots act as batteries, but they aren't like pylons. Pylons cover and area and that's all, but depots, depending on upgrade level, have in and out. Buildings' energy works with "beams". These beams jump from one depot to another, carrying energy. You need to link manually those beams from depot to depot until you reach the production building. These beams originate from the command building, that acts as an energy station.
Smaller units: he robotic army has smaller units, that don't act as buildings, but the building-units are still the core of the army. These smaller units act as normal units, and maybe, they could be recycled just like terran bunkers. You put them inside the proper building and surprise, you recover the money.
Depots' special ability: the beam used to transport energy can be altered to be a "repairing" beam, as well as a "electric fence" beam. Ultimately, they could even give better firepower when connected to nearby building-units.
Transportation special ability: the small units could use the "beam network" just as a nydus network, entering a special building linked to the network, of course. The beams would show units being transported.
Construction: to build new buildings, you have to use the existing ones. Depots are the lowest level, and can build anything. However, the construction for high tier buildings is very slow, so you may want to use more depots. Yes, you can speed up the construction of a buildings using more "constructors". Aside from depots, any building can build other buildings, but the higher tier they are, the more limited they are, and they can't build lower buildings, for example. The only disadvantage is that to do so, they must stay idle, and have a beam linked to the constructing building.
And those are the core concepts that make this race unique. Since the units are the buildings, there's less buildings than in other races, and certain research buildings (those you build only to unlock stuff) may be translated as research or additional linked beams. After all, to research you have to stay idle, losing an unit in the process, so I think it's fine.
The "but there's no micro on recollection so you just suck" problem is fixed by the need to have a good beam macro, connecting stuff here and there. You won't be competitive if you don't link buildings efficiently, because no matter you have tons of resources, you need working buildings to spend them.
Some unit ideas, although they need work (I never got to write any of this, so I'm spawning everything out of my head right now, lol): [note: A: air, B: building]
Tier 0 Command (B): big ass structure, can load depots to get more beam power. Starts with only 4-6 (you need a beam for each resource object and to link the network). They can attack, but they are pretty weak, just like a fat depot. However, if you load depots on it, it becomes more powerful.
Tier 0.5 Depot (better name would be battery or something like that, but I leave it as depot so you don't get lost :P) B): these are the basic building units, they don't do too much damage, but they are excellent tanks to resist damage, and form a cannon fodder wall in front of the ranged units. They can evolve into different towers, too (anti-light and anti-heavy).
Tier 1 Wasp: these guys are like marines, but of 1 food. Think of slow zerglings with assault rifles. Brutes (B): these are the basic force, and cost 3 food. They are like 1.5 zealots. They produce wasps and technoguys, when standing idle and having 1 beam linked to them. Technoguy: these guys are built from brutes, too, and are the T1 casters. They can spawn fake-depots, that don't give food, but allow beams to travel higher distances (beams have a jump limit, and these help bring energy to distant places faster). They can sacrifice to heal their allies, too. Finally, they can spawn small flying drones, that can drain enemy energy and shields, and be used for exploration. They fly, but only attack land.
Tier 2 Shockwaver (B): these big and slow guys attack using shockwaves, with a decreasing damage and a growing area depending on the distance. Think of a cone shockwave. They're powerful against armored units. However, the shockwave doesn't trespass attacked enemies, at least not without the upgrade. Barrager (B): these small and fast guys are the special anti air unit. In land, they are useful against light units, but in general, they are weak. Against air, they use their full potency, and have a special barrage aoe attack. Stinger: melee fliers, that are good against big objectives. They get near enemy fliers, where they take speed and make small hits, to later retreat a few meters and charge again. They are terrible on high numbers, overwhelming smaller and slower fleets of heavy ships. Created by Barrager. Caster: the typical caster like the Infestor, HT and Raven. Doesn't fly. Still haven't decide any ability for him. Created by Shockwaver. Transport: they can act as flying fake depots as well as carry buildings and units. Created by Barrager.
Tier 3: Destroyer (B): a melee brute, in the levels of an Ultralisk, but with a circle AoE. Has a weaker anti-air attack. Worm: a small permanently invisible flier with a slowing area attack. Created by Spaceship. Spaceship (B): a medium flier (the only flying building) with a good siege attack against land, and ranged cannons against air (think of void-ray + viking).
And well, if you've read all of this, WHoA, you really have a lot of free time xDDD. Those are the ideas for my race. I start to write and I don't stop, lulz. I hope my design schematics inspire everyone to make cool stuff ;).
And if someone wants to work with me to create the race, well, I'm open to work :P.
I had more ideas, but I don't remember/find them.
I'm a product of your collective imagination and, therefore, I do not assume responsibility of anything I don't want to assume responsibility of.
Wow :D
We already came up with the basic race concept, so that people can start working on things right away. We need the brainstormers to modify that concept. So we're not only looking for brand new ideas (although if there are good ones, we can certainly implement them). If you visit the brainstorming thread, you can check out the project blueprint. Although next time, maybe post in the brainstorming thread ;)
As for the ideas themselves:
I can help with data and some interface such as icons, wireframes and even some texture works.
Quote from zeldarules28: Go3D models are on the way (hopefully). The plan is to create the units and everything using default sc2 assets, and then swap them out for the custom artwork as it becomes available.
Hopefully is always the key word, unless your making these assets yourself, they aren't going to be coming available. There are very few people out there currently that have the know-how on modeling for SC2 and even fewer that are either willing to do it for other or to teach others the know-how.
Also, welcome to sc2mapster! If you have any questions, feel free to PM me ;)
I also give you the welcome gift of the permission to buy us all a round of drinks!
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1. I wanted to make race of robots by myself since sc:bw times, but it's probably impossible to do alone/ I've got plenty of ideas and some 2d arts but i do not want to spam cuz I'm new here :)
2. Thats seems fine.
3. Thanks for greeting me !!! :)
Would voices be considered under art? I've done some voice acting and radio work, so I could probably record and edit everything.
We all know it's not a starcraft race unless I can click on it 20 times and hear funny dialog.
Yea, audio files would be sweet, but I wouldn't bother with them before we're fairly done with the race - Things might get scrapped halfway through, and audio files aren't as easily re-usable as 3D models
I'm a 2D artist if you need one
If you need me to do something and I don't do it in the next 3 hours, PM me. I'm really forgetful.
Also, because of school, I only work on weekends.
My thread for requests:
Yeah, for final cuts, you definitely want to wait, but I don't mind doing some samples to help bring the initial units to life for presentations and such. It'll give me a chance to mess around with effects and filters and get a feel for those. I work at a radio station, so I have access to professional audio recording, and I have a pretty flexible, presentable voice myself.
Till then, I can help with data editing or ideas / balancing I suppose. We're just posting the ideas all in this thread, right?
I just read this, but i have lots of good ideas, and i can help with the basic data stuff. I ain't no professional, and i'm working on my other map, but i really would love to help. I don't know who would do this, but if some1 knows where i could go to help best, I would be honored.
zeldarules28 ModeratorCommunity Project #2
That's right! The time has come for another community project! This time around, we will be creating a 4th melee race for starcraft! The race is made up of highly intelligent robots, capable of adapting to any situation with surprising speed and merging units together to create powerful war machines.
What we need from you
We cannot do this alone! It's up to you guys to help us make this fourth race. Check out the threads listed below for more information.
How is this race going to play? Will they work like the other races?
The race is made up of highly intelligent robots. The race is capable of creating higher tier units by merging lower tier units together. They can also upgrade units individually, to specialize their army. One unit may be able to choose between more powerful attacks, or heavy armor.
What are we going to do with the race?
Once the race is complete, we will publish the map for anybody on battle.net to play. Not only will this be a great way to tell people about the website, we will also be able to host a tournament using the race.