I thought it was clear with the original post that religious nutters were not welcomed in this thread.
It is very nice to see that one of our resident mods can not help but troll in this thread with religious intollerance. And @Hookah, I was temp-banned because A) I called out a certain Mod (that has posted in this thread) and said there had been a walk-out in relations to his project, of which there has been and he banned me and censored the post relating to the project and tried to blame it on me making OP aware of not spamming his own threads, even when I posted evidence for my actions and it was ignored, and B) Because I decided not to go over his head and get the ban overturned straight away, instead I was too busy planning the release of my own project and a few days without Mapster isn't gonna kill me. It is one of the rare times that I have not had something overturned and instead rode it out, you should feel honoured to have witnessed it :)
BTW, Are we going to censor the above paragraph as well mate? Feel free, all it does is increase my reputation everytime a certain person chucks a tantrum. (from 8-20 in 3 days baby!).
But yes, I agree with Stephen Hawking in that time could not exist before the big bang, nor inside a black hole. But time is merely a measurement, and I think that things can exist outside of time - much like time being a flowing river and you standing on the banks and watching it go by (maybe I have watched one too many episodes of Doctor Who).
If you think of it this way, that the river is the universe, the flowing aspect is time, and it starts at a dam. In the dam, there is no time because nothing is flowing, but it still takes someone to flip the switch to release the dam to create the river, that person would have created the river, henceforth he would be considered god, whether or not he looked after the river is another story. You could throw a rock into the river from the shoreline and it would have just 'suddenly appeared' in the universe, as according to the river nothing can exist outside it. It is just one interesting way of thinking about it.
Quantum Mechanics is all kinds of fun and I find it extremely interesting. I should really study it more, but alas, no time. (Pun Intended).
Hookah604 AuthorI see the best way to comment on the discussion by some Feynman quotes:
“If you thought that science was certain - well, that is just an error on your part.”
“We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.”
“I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong.”
"We cannot define anything precisely! If we attempt to, we get into that paralysis of thought that comes to philosophers, who sit opposite each other, one saying to the other, 'You don't know what you are talking about!' The second one says 'What do you mean by know? What do you mean by talking? What do you mean by you?', and so on."
And one from someone that I dont remember::
"Science is about predicting things more and more precisely."
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